Sundown vs AQ vs yo mama

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

That's what it's rated' date=' but it benched at almost 600..... it's a ZED Audio built Crunch amp.[/quote']
Regardless, I think he'd still use the SDC over the SA.

 

[Electrodynamic 10+ year member]

& IMO the AQ sub sounds better.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion(s), but I have to staunchly disagree that the AQ sounds better than the SA. I have personal experience with both products and before powering up with driver it is quickly apparent that the AQ has a concrete (very stiff) suspension and an overall inferior suspension to the SA. The SA uses a nomex spider that is more compliant than the AQ, and the parameters are more adapt to being used in sealed enclosures and ported enclosures - whereas the AQ leans heavily towards ported enclosures. And listening to both drivers side-by-side in similar sized sealed and ported enclosures one thing is immediately noticeable: The SA plays lower. A LOT lower. Assuming that both drivers have a fairly similar inductance to one another (both coils are close in Le) and knowing that the SA plays considerably lower, the SA plays a much larger bandwidth than the AQ. Larger bandwidth = better transient response, and I, for one, enjoy listening to my music that doesn't shelve off after 50/45 Hz.

To the OP: If you come to pick up your SA tomorrow, I'll meet you at Sundown Audio and I'll bring my test SDC 12 and my SA 12 and let you listen to both of them. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Bob Saget]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion(s), but I have to staunchly disagree that the AQ sounds better than the SA. I have personal experience with both products and before powering up with driver it is quickly apparent that the AQ has a concrete (very stiff) suspension and an overall inferior suspension to the SA. The SA uses a nomex spider that is more compliant than the AQ, and the parameters are more adapt to being used in sealed enclosures and ported enclosures - whereas the AQ leans heavily towards ported enclosures. And listening to both drivers side-by-side in similar sized sealed and ported enclosures one thing is immediately noticeable: The SA plays lower. A LOT lower. Assuming that both drivers have a fairly similar inductance to one another (both coils are close in Le) and knowing that the SA plays considerably lower, the SA plays a much larger bandwidth than the AQ. Larger bandwidth = better transient response, and I, for one, enjoy listening to my music that doesn't shelve off after 50/45 Hz.
To the OP: If you come to pick up your SA tomorrow, I'll meet you at Sundown Audio and I'll bring my test SDC 12 and my SA 12 and let you listen to both of them. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

deal //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif I think that's what I'm gonna do. I'm getting a badass price & I've been wanting to try the hometown equipment out.

I'm gonna play around with it on a pair of my amps.... ZED Crunch 250 & PPI Art A600.

The PPI has quite a bit more power, but the ZED piece is ridiculously clean.

 

[05fronty 5,000+ posts]

i'm gonna get the sdc's in 15's because it fits my parameters better for what i am going to do. i know a guy with a pair of the sa12's and they shine. side note wonder why the sa isn't made in a 15? i might have leaned towards those in a 15.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I think there is a pre-oder for SA-15's now.

 

[05fronty 5,000+ posts]

I think there is a pre-oder for SA-15's now.

really? dammit now i have to make up my mind again! link?

 

[05fronty 5,000+ posts]

nevermind i found it on the 15's.

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

Yes, the SA-15 is on pre-sale -- just took some time to get them out is all //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

SDC's sound bad in my opinion...I haven't heard the SA line, but it'd be hard for it to sound worse.

 

[05fronty 5,000+ posts]

Yes, the SA-15 is on pre-sale -- just took some time to get them out is all //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

sent email, i think i will get these esp for the price over the sdc's