Sundown : Revisiting Component Sets (Mid-Level)

[sundownz Pro Seller]

I should have the midrange final prototype in my hands on Monday... assuming it is 100% to my liking I will announce pre-order pricing as we have already started to get materials together for the tweeter, crossover, etc.

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

Looks good. I'll be ready for the pre order.

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

Here is the tweeter plot with off axis included.

 

[Towncar 10+ year member]

Here is the tweeter plot with off axis included.

Im hoping this set can handle some decent power.. Any updates on pre order and ect?

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

in for pricing

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

Im hoping this set can handle some decent power.. Any updates on pre order and ect?

As far as a set in it's class power handling will be up there due to the thermal considerations put into the design; vented former, vented frame, and even direct gap venting in the back plate. Official ratings will be conservative based on "worst case" as always -- but I will be testing on two channels of a 200.4 in my car.

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

wanna sell the old set that was in your car ? jacob

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

wanna sell the old set that was in your car ? jacob

Sure. I'll try to have it swapped over this weekend so I can do some more in-car with the new set.

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

pm me a price jacob.

 

[dbjunior 10+ year member]

Would be great if you made an active set without crossovers for less.

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

I got the set installed yesterday with the final mids in my VW Golf -- sounds fantastic. Much less fatigue than the prior prototype set -- I had it up to my max listening level all the way back from the shop (15 mins or so) with very minimal listening fatigue. I am very pleased with how the set is working out. Both the mid and tweeter are much smoother than the prior set... the prior set sounded good but I found it fatiguing at high levels over long periods of time.

The prior set being what I was working on April of 2011 (which I don't think I posted pictures of)... that set used a woven fiberglass cone and a bit different tweeter design. I did post a shallow set that was very similar which we put in Nick's CRX; but I had a "standard" depth set in my VW.

Little more on my setup... I run them in stock locations with a handful of Audio Technix dampening material on the door (it's already solid unlike most doors so no holes to seal up). I'll get some photos up when I get back to work too... I have an SAX-200.4 on the comp set and my 3x SA-8 v.2 woofers -- so PLENTY of juice on tap. With a correctly configured HPF I do not see any problems running a nice, powerful amp on them like I am doing -- but our official rating will be much more conservative as it has to be flexible enough for inexperienced users.

As of now I have zero EQ work done and I am very pleased; but I do plan to run an RTA and see how the response looks and maybe apply a bit of EQ if I see any major trouble spots due to the vehicle itself (the set itself is super flat out-of-car).

In summary... I am pretty much 100% happy with the performance at the price these are coming in at. I anticipate the price being right at $199 from a dealer even with the mid upgrades we did (so I hit my under $200 target) -- at this price range I think they will be hard to beat if you are looking for a set with a very smooth response with low fatigue.

 

[Goindef154 5,000+ posts]

That's fantastic man, looking forward to getting a few sets //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif.

 

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Not sure if you mentioned but what tweeter did you go with?

Never mind, silk dome //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

Here are some photos of putting them in :

 

* The door is already very solid so that is a plus for sure! Crossover is installed on the door itself as well.

 

* Added some Audio-Technix dampener on all the large flat spots and also behind the mid. Also installed the wooden adapter ring for the mid to the door.

 

* Some dampener directly behind the mid.

 

* Made a raid guard out of a few pieces of dampener and some aluminum tape -- this will keep large amount of direct water off the mid. Ambient moisture is really not a concern for the treated paper cone but we don't want water dumping down on it.

 

* Mid fully installed.

 

The tweeter is right in the factory location -- nothing special to show there!

 

I am super pleased with the performance in this price bracket //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

I essentially have what 90% of people that buy the set will have -- a basic install, with some minimal dampener, typically in factory spots. As you can see -- no crazy install tricks... but the result is still great sound //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

When I get a moment we'll also do an in-car RTA of it just like this as well.

 

[Dman3047 10+ year member]

I need 2 sets.. Hurry up Jacob.. LOL