Steroids

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

Mossberg 500 pistol grip.
Short, cheap ($199), and reliable. I wouldnt shoot it too often for fun, the recoil feels like someone is taking a hammer to your hand. Its nothing that cant be handled for 6 shots though.

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This is what I meant by balanced.

Plainly put, hes a moron. Im sure he had more problems then just pea size nuts. Once the body finds a source of testosterone readily available, it pretty much figures 'screw it, I dont need to produce more' hence the reason for pea-nuts.

Not to mention excess testosterone converts to estrogen. Thats the reason gyno (aks b!tch tits) starts to form. Not exactly the coolest thing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif Thats why Nolvadex is usually a good idea.

I knew the first part, but I did not know that's why guys who mess up their hormone cycles end up with gyno. Interesting.

 

[TC2k15x2 10+ year member]

deca alone for 6 weeks? 6 wks isn't nearly long enough for a deca cycle and besides it is highly recommended that a test be used in conjuction with deca.
Plus, if you don't know the names of all the other products you need then you haven't spent enough time researching everything - cause your research will lead you to what you need //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Well theres different ways and products to cure your liver, i just wanted to know what worked for you guys, and I do know a lot of the names, clomid, milk thistle, nolva, vitex...

Wanted some input from others and their real experience...

 

[HitManSE 10+ year member]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=55

Id say thats a fair start with a good chunk of info. There are better sources, but its been a while since ive done research. The stickys alone should be more than enough.

Just make sure you have EVERYTHING before you start. As for the liver, id rather be anal and do too much to help protect it than not enough.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=55
Id say thats a fair start with a good chunk of info. There are better sources, but its been a while since ive done research. The stickys alone should be more than enough.

Just make sure you have EVERYTHING before you start. As for the liver, id rather be anal and do too much to help protect it than not enough.

Would HGH or some derivative of it not be a better choice than steroids?

 

[Platestacker45 10+ year member]

mmmmm..... steroids...... yummmmmmyyyyy //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

Lol.

 

[HitManSE 10+ year member]

Would HGH or some derivative of it not be a better choice than steroids?

Id never touch it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Sure it makes you grow, shit its HGH. It makes your internal organs grow as well. Kinda dangerous to mess with IMO, more so than steroids. Temporary side effects of steroids are far more reasonable then enlarged anything that cant be reversed.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

Id never touch it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Sure it makes you grow, shit its HGH. It makes your internal organs grow as well. Kinda dangerous to mess with IMO, more so than steroids. Temporary side effects of steroids are far more reasonable then enlarged anything that cant be reversed.

So, is that why all the body builders who take HGH have the bloated stomachs?

 

[Meka 10+ year member]

Varsity middle linebacker, 283lbs,, 13% body fat, that was in 97'. It is now 08' (no juice), 235lbs,, ?% body fat, but did not lose ALL my strength, I can still through some people around...lol

I really doubt you were that low of a body fat that heavy. If you were you have crazy genetics.

 

[HitManSE 10+ year member]

So, is that why all the body builders who take HGH have the bloated stomachs?

Bingo.

Even though their abs are plainly visible, the pregnant look is common among bodybuilders. Its like stuffing 10lbs of shit in a 5lb bag. HGH or Insulin are two things id never mess with.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

Is there really a way to prevent the cardiovascular troubles that come along with steroids, or is that just the ultimate price of not being patient enough with a healthy diet?

 

[FASTIMES 10+ year member]

Well theres different ways and products to cure your liver, i just wanted to know what worked for you guys, and I do know a lot of the names, clomid, milk thistle, nolva, vitex...
Wanted some input from others and their real experience...

To each his own, I never took anything specifically for the liver in mind, reason being most of your liver problems that have to do with roids are from pill form, oral Winstrol, Anadrol 50....,obviously because they are passed directly through the liver, this being the main cost for the user thats afraid of the needle.

Would HGH or some derivative of it not be a better choice than steroids?

HGH can be the most dangerous of all, HGH is popular in the care of people that have medical conditions that there bones are weakening or aids and a few more major conditions, so when overly taken by an individual it is likely to start seeing "unusual" bone growth, mostly seen in the jaw area..(China the wrestler, many Tough man competitors..). You can also start noticing loss of range of motion at the joints.. IDK , doesnt sound fun.

 

[FASTIMES 10+ year member]

Id never touch it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
Sure it makes you grow, shit its HGH. It makes your internal organs grow as well. Kinda dangerous to mess with IMO, more so than steroids. Temporary side effects of steroids are far more reasonable then enlarged anything that cant be reversed.

^^^^//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/clap.gif.178cba2c538c68e720c727fcb024b19c.gif

 

[FASTIMES 10+ year member]

I really doubt you were that low of a body fat that heavy. If you were you have crazy genetics.

Call it what you want, I call it dedication and a fat wallet to fund my cycles.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

HGH can be the most dangerous of all, HGH is popular in the care of people that have medical conditions that there bones are weakening or aids and a few more major conditions, so when overly taken by an individual it is likely to start seeing "unusual" bone growth, mostly seen in the jaw area..(China the wrestler, many Tough man competitors..). You can also start noticing loss of range of motion at the joints.. IDK , doesnt sound fun.

I've heard of people taking HGH especially for their joints though? Like in the case of someone blowing out their rotator cuff.