Steroids

Truth.Out of curiosity, what did you get your weight up to?

Thats something you might want to inform a mod about to remove. Sometime soon would be a good idea.

He never will.

Steroids are a crutch for those that dont know wtf they're doing. He obviously doesnt sound like he knows a **** thing about lifting and eating correctly, yet alone steroids. Even those that take steroids arnt in for an easy ride. A lot of people look at it as a short cut until they realize the amount of work necessary to put in while on steroids is FAR more then going natural route.

If someone isnt capable if gaining size naturally, steroids wont exactly be their silver bullet. Its a case of biting off more then can be chewed. Your friend would do better off eating massive amounts of food (starting at 5K +) and working up from there.

Varsity middle linebacker, 283lbs,, 13% body fat, that was in 97'. It is now 08' (no juice), 235lbs,, ?% body fat, but did not lose ALL my strength, I can still through some people around...lol

 
im not takeing it like ur comeing off like a dick..... im pretty sure he know's what he is getting into... but it's all up to him sooo i dunno what to say other then hope he dosent do something stupid
Thats fine, and you're right. His body, his choice.

Do i regret taking any of it? No. would i do it again if i were in the same situation? Probably so.

Im not saying that you came off as a dic in your last post, i completely understand your opinion. However, what i cant agree with, as im sure you feel the same, is when people mis-use the supplements. by that, i mean stacking 2 or 3 or 4 steroids within a 1-cycle period, and doing maybe 2-3 cycles a year. that is just terrible for your body!
Your situation is yours. You did whatever you thought was necessary to get things done at the time. That falls into the, your body, you do with it what you want category. IGF, Steroids, etc. Still not the best thing for the body at such a young age. It was your choice though, so as stated, ill respect that. I sure wouldnt suggest it, nor do such a thing at that age.

At least you did it safely and didnt go overboard with it. Mis-use of steroids is THE problem with people in general and of course its exaggerated to hell via media. Use can be done safely, and is done safely by those who use responsibly.

As for stacking, its not too bad an idea. Actually its a great idea, so long as its balanced out. 2-3 stack is very common. More than 2 cycles a year (1 being plenty IMO) is pushing it. Not just because of health, but because the bodys tendons and ligaments cant gain strength as fast as muscle. Not to mention bone density doesnt occur over night. I dont think I need to explain to anyone what that can lead to. Its comparable to building a 1000hp motor and leaving the stock ****** & suspension in place. Its not going to hold.

I would disagree and call people stupid for being on any cycle without stacking with test. Say for example, you have some D-bol, if you dont use test with it you are a complete idiot.
Agreed.

Stacks are more efficient. Each cycle is going to be less effective then the prior. That needs to be taken into account. Id much rather do a single cycle a year, stacked, and get the most out of it and let the body stabilize at that level for a while before attempting a cycle again.

no i'll bring a hammer... wtf...
im sorry but gun's ect.. pussy shit...

i fight with my fist's if someone draws a gun on me.. im gone!! running my *** off...

but as far as my house gose... i have a basball bat under my bed.. only for the reson if someone breaks into my house...
Dude... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif Bullets are Waaaaaaay faster than you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Guns are ***** shit if used by a ***** //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif In order or priority, id take things in this way. Getting the hell out of there is #1. Followed by fighting (hand to hand) #2. If however things get out of hand, #3 is the gun. Always the last resort.

The king of home defense will always be the shotgun. That sound it makes, you know, the rack of the slide. Its usually enough to deter any further movement. Its a universal language anyone could understand //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif Probably because it foreshadows whats about to happen, causing one to rethink any further action. That or they're about to be turned into raw meat.

 
his dick is going to look bigger than yours from now on since his balls are going to be tiny.
I must say, that is a mighty fine *** in your ava.

Varsity middle linebacker, 283lbs,, 13% body fat, that was in 97'. It is now 08' (no juice), 235lbs,, ?% body fat, but did not lose ALL my strength, I can still through some people around...lol
//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif 283 @ 13% is hilariously large. 235 (im sure you havnt let yourself go) is still respectably large as well IMO.

Personally, Ive never passed 264 @ ?? BF. Never had a reason to. Down to about 227 atm. 225-235 in the low teens BF seems like a very comfortable and somewhat easy to maintain area to stay at IMO. Of course that depends on ones height as well, but im sure not going to complain.

 
I can't believe all the false info in here. Steroids LOWERS life expectancy! Anyone who takes them obviously does not care about their long term health.
I take this wasnt directed to me..I never once claimed they were great 4 you or they wont hurt ya..or stated they were a great choice in my life. Im 29 now havnt done them in over 6 years. Almost everyone had or has there drug they f#cked with in high school,,,,weed, X, coke, meth,,,,mine was JUICE!! I did alright. IMO

 
I take this wasnt directed to me..I never once claimed they were great 4 you or they wont hurt ya..or stated they were a great choice in my life. Im 29 now havnt done them in over 6 years. Almost everyone had or has there drug they f#cked with in high school,,,,weed, X, coke, meth,,,,mine was JUICE!! I did alright. IMO
Actually I was just trying to piss people off and see them get worked up, I know nothing about the subject. But I digress. I'm tired and going to bed and don't feel like being a prick for no reason, lol.

 
I can't believe all the false info in here. Steroids LOWERS life expectancy! Anyone who takes them obviously does not care about their long term health.
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Fast food eaten daily will jack your liver up worst than steroids.

Moral of the story? inject juice, not french fries.

 
Dude... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif Bullets are Waaaaaaay faster than you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Guns are ***** shit if used by a ***** //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif In order or priority, id take things in this way. Getting the hell out of there is #1. Followed by fighting (hand to hand) #2. If however things get out of hand, #3 is the gun. Always the last resort.

The king of home defense will always be the shotgun. That sound it makes, you know, the rack of the slide. Its usually enough to deter any further movement. Its a universal language anyone could understand //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif Probably because it foreshadows whats about to happen, causing one to rethink any further action. That or they're about to be turned into raw meat.
funny thing, i was sitting on my couch yesterday looking at the sporting goods add for our local sporting goods store, and saw a bad *** shot gun in there i was like.. i need one of those;)

 
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Fast food eaten daily will jack your liver up worst than steroids.

Moral of the story? inject juice, not french fries.
Yeah fast food is horrible, I used to eat that shit all the time in high school. Cut back now, I don't eat fast food very often. But valid point! Lot's of things people do are bad for them, I wasn't being serious when I said that BTW.

 
i agree that stacking is recommended in some cases.... however, i dont condone people who religiously stack 2 or 3 cycles about twice or 3 times a year. thats it absolutely terrible for your body. again, i agree that stacking test and d-bol is a good idea, but then you get idiots who have NO idea of what they are doing and stack anything. i heard one guy was stacking winstol and d-bol with test. to me, thats just dumb!

 
i agree that stacking is recommended in some cases.... however, i dont condone people who religiously stack 2 or 3 cycles about twice or 3 times a year. thats it absolutely terrible for your body. again, i agree that stacking test and d-bol is a good idea, but then you get idiots who have NO idea of what they are doing and stack anything. i heard one guy was stacking winstol and d-bol with test. to me, thats just dumb!
//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif Well, I really dont understand that reply, given that this is an EXTREMELY popular stack by builders. D-bol and Test being mass builders and Windstrol being a cutter. D-bol and Test more than often cause water retention/weight, Winny is the opposite.

 
There was a story of a guy who went like a year straight on juice from one of the body building sites. Said he never quit because he just didn't know how and was too embarrassed to ask for help. His nuts were the size of peanuts he said.

 
Hey guys im about to cycle on deca for about 6 weeks and need help with my PCT could someone point me in a good direction for some, cheap clomid and all other proucts I will need.

 
funny thing, i was sitting on my couch yesterday looking at the sporting goods add for our local sporting goods store, and saw a bad *** shot gun in there i was like.. i need one of those;)
Mossberg 500 pistol grip.

Short, cheap ($199), and reliable. I wouldnt shoot it too often for fun, the recoil feels like someone is taking a hammer to your hand. Its nothing that cant be handled for 6 shots though.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif Well, I really dont understand that reply, given that this is an EXTREMELY popular stack by builders. D-bol and Test being mass builders and Windstrol being a cutter. D-bol and Test more than often cause water retention/weight, Winny is the opposite.
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This is what I meant by balanced.

There was a story of a guy who went like a year straight on juice from one of the body building sites. Said he never quit because he just didn't know how and was too embarrassed to ask for help. His nuts were the size of peanuts he said.
Plainly put, hes a moron. Im sure he had more problems then just pea size nuts. Once the body finds a source of testosterone readily available, it pretty much figures 'screw it, I dont need to produce more' hence the reason for pea-nuts.

Not to mention excess testosterone converts to estrogen. Thats the reason gyno (aks b!tch tits) starts to form. Not exactly the coolest thing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif Thats why Nolvadex is usually a good idea.

 
Hey guys im about to cycle on deca for about 6 weeks and need help with my PCT could someone point me in a good direction for some, cheap clomid and all other proucts I will need.
deca alone for 6 weeks? 6 wks isn't nearly long enough for a deca cycle and besides it is highly recommended that a test be used in conjuction with deca.

Plus, if you don't know the names of all the other products you need then you haven't spent enough time researching everything - cause your research will lead you to what you need //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 
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