Spent the night in the pittsburgh,pa county(alleghany) jail

Alright, well he SHOULD have read you your Miranda rights then. Seeing as nothing was found/proven from the questioning all this will amount to is a slap on the wrist for the officer. The only time them not reading your rights would directly impact your case is when they find something further from it, so say you admit to having weed stashed in the center console, they wouldn't be able to use that as evidence because they did not read you your rights and the evidence would be thrown out. Since they found the paraphernalia without questioning you though, that will hold up.

 
I haven't caught up on the 2nd half of this thread, but my question is: What was the probable cause?

I know the cop said he looked nervous... but I'd have a hard time believing that's probable cause. Neither are air fresheners. It sounds like the cop just had a hunch to me.

 
You're saying I'm "beyond idiocy" when you're comparing apples to oranges. You speak with lawyers on gun forums when we're talking about a traffic stop where a vehicle was searched? Are you a lawyer or have you taken a Criminal Justice class? I don't believe so, I'd say I'm a fair bit more qualified on this subject then you. I'm looking directly at my notes that were taken while viewing a presentation prepared by the STATE on Citizen Encounters. OP has every right under the 4th ammendment to deny the officer from searching his vehicle but until OP states that he does not want the officer to continue or initiate the search of the vehicle the officer may do so and any evidence accumulated may be used as evidence.
all BS. peddle that crap elsewhere because I know the deal. A search is a search is a search, and it cannot be done unless the cop asks to do so and you give permission, or probable cause has been found.

I haven't caught up on the 2nd half of this thread, but my question is: What was the probable cause?
Nothing.

 
If you quit doing drugs none of that would have happened. Just saying.

If you told the cop you had a weapon and let him in your car you pretty much gave him consent to search your property.

 
If you quit doing drugs none of that would have happened. Just saying.
If you told the cop you had a weapon and let him in your car you pretty much gave him consent to search your property.
he asked if there was a weapon, he never asked if he could retrieve it I actually was going to hand it to him and he said no no no he would get it but he was already snoopin through stuff he had my passenger side door open and was lookin through my wallet that was in my cupholder with my cell phone which he grabbed and was holding on to.. i never gave him any type of permission to open anything or grab anything this cop had just pulled up to the scene 30 seconds before this and started going through my car

 
he asked if there was a weapon, he never asked if he could retrieve it I actually was going to hand it to him and he said no no no he would get it but he was already snoopin through stuff he had my passenger side door open and was lookin through my wallet that was in my cupholder with my cell phone which he grabbed and was holding on to.. i never gave him any type of permission to open anything or grab anything this cop had just pulled up to the scene 30 seconds before this and started going through my car
First mistake was telling him you had anything in the car. That is pretty much all he needs. Next mistake is not locking the **** doors when you got out. Next mistake was not demanding they GTFO of your stuff when they attempted to go poking around. "I do NOT consent to you searching me or my property".

Ask if you are free to leave, if they say yes, leave immediately, if they say no than you are under arrest. At this point you must demand your rights (attorney, silence, etc.).

tldr: You gave what passes for consent these days.

Sounds pretty fucked up. I'd contact a lawyer. It sounds like they really did just about everything wrong. Lost personal belongings. Didn't read miranda rights. Didn't ask permission for anything. Didn't have reasonable cause for anything.
What they did was pretty much standard police procedure. If you don't know your rights and don't understand how to stick up for yourself you will be pushed around like bullies like that any time you come in contact with them.

 
First mistake was telling him you had anything in the car. That is pretty much all he needs. Next mistake is not locking the **** doors when you got out. Next mistake was not demanding they GTFO of your stuff when they attempted to go poking around. "I do NOT consent to you searching me or my property".
Ask if you are free to leave, if they say yes, leave immediately, if they say no than you are under arrest. At this point you must demand your rights (attorney, silence, etc.).

tldr: You gave what passes for consent these days.

What they did was pretty much standard police procedure. If you don't know your rights and don't understand how to stick up for yourself you will be pushed around like bullies like that any time you come in contact with them.
Most intelligent response in this thread yet.

 
actually this was

The lesson in this: Stop carrying para in your damned glove box. Leave that **** at home.
if you didnt dabble in illegal stuff worse case is they would have had you stand outside why they checked your car, and you would have been on your way, its not illegal to carry or posses a pocket knife. If I was your grandfather i'd want to slap the **** out of you for getting into trouble, but I guess if your dad is getting a dui, then he is used to a **** up in the family. to sum it all up I hope you get stuck with every possible charge they can throw at you. I've been pulled over plenty of times, speeding, expire registration, loud music, worst ive ever gotten is a few tickets and a few warnings. Theres always 3 sides to a story yours, the cops, and the truth, so yours honestly really isnt going to matter since they found what they did

 
You could have just gotten a shady cop too. When I got busted it was the same cop that had been trying to get me for almost a year. He would come out to where I work and get permission from my boss/owner of the property to search the property and they'd come go around my car with the drug dog like 1 or 2 times a week. When I got busted he took 400$ I had in my wallet and said it was drug money. He didn't even put it in a envelope. He put it in his pocket right in front of me. But when I asked the judge how to get it back, she said they never had any record of taking my money. So he kept it. Also when he searched my car, he broke my I pod, and he also blew my amp cuz the power and ground touched somehow and shorted out. So you might have just got that 1 cop that is the total p.o.s.

I'm not bitching btw so don't give me shit. Idc.

 
actually this was
if you didnt dabble in illegal stuff worse case is they would have had you stand outside why they checked your car, and you would have been on your way, its not illegal to carry or posses a pocket knife. If I was your grandfather i'd want to slap the **** out of you for getting into trouble, but I guess if your dad is getting a dui, then he is used to a **** up in the family. to sum it all up I hope you get stuck with every possible charge they can throw at you. I've been pulled over plenty of times, speeding, expire registration, loud music, worst ive ever gotten is a few tickets and a few warnings. Theres always 3 sides to a story yours, the cops, and the truth, so yours honestly really isnt going to matter since they found what they did
your the type of dude that snitches and tells on other people i can tell.. i hate people like you ... get the fuck outta my thread you faggot if i knew you in real life i would show how you how quick a fuck up would ruin your whole fuckin day... take your high & mighty ass elsewhere... oh by the way dip **** my grandpap is on my mothers side so i really doubt he cares if my dad has a dui considerin they arent even related. my dad got the dui in his own driveway was worst part lol

 
your the type of dude that snitches and tells on other people i can tell.. i hate people like you ... get the fuck outta my thread you faggot if i knew you in real life i would show how you how quick a fuck up would ruin your whole fuckin day... take your high & mighty ass elsewhere... oh by the way dip **** my grandpap is on my mothers side so i really doubt he cares if my dad has a dui considerin they arent even related. my dad got the dui in his own driveway was worst part lol
we can glady meet, Unlike you I'll will just use my brain wait untill your on probation so you can go to jail where your dam *** belongs, I love the ghetto mentality snitches are ******* blah blah, until your mom, sister, child whatever gets killed by the same douche that you saw do something wrong in the past, It takes a real back bone and guts to stand up and do whats right, but you wont ever know about that since you can just continue to be a drain on society and my hard earned tax dollars as you waste cops time cause you dont know how to act

 
we can glady meet, Unlike you I'll will just use my brain wait untill your on probation so you can go to jail where your dam *** belongs, I love the ghetto mentality snitches are ******* blah blah, until your mom, sister, child whatever gets killed by the same douche that you saw do something wrong in the past, It takes a real back bone and guts to stand up and do whats right, but you wont ever know about that since you can just continue to be a drain on society and my hard earned tax dollars as you waste cops time cause you dont know how to act

lol... i pay taxes bro.. i am a business owner you moron..you are a retard. ghetto mentality... look up the area i live in..hardly a ghetto you idiot lol..pittsburgh has been voted nicest place to live in america last 7-8 years and i live in a upper/high middle class area so your a moron bro. yeah i must be a menace to society i got caught with papers and a pipe and its my first charge... EVER. lol..your a ****** retard.

 
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