speaker recommendation needed

[mr personality 10+ year member]

and so the amp which i got is a 4 channel 450 W power amplifier. how do you think it is, will it overpower the front

and brandwise, how would you rate these in terms of the quality for mellow music: boston acoustics, jl audio, mb quart & diamond. let's just say that we are comparing the diff speakers at the same class (2 way vs 2 way, the highest class vs the highest class)

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

What exact amp do you have??

As far as the speakers; It really comes down to personal preference. It would be best if you could listen to them all yourself and decide. I haven't heard the high-end of MB Quart, JL or Diamond personally, but I have heard the Boston Z6 components and owned the Boston Pro components previous.......both were excellent in my opinion, and the Z6 were just amazing (I heard them with the Bose demo disc, which was a very musical, jazz type of music.)

 

[mr personality 10+ year member]

it's an audison lrx 4 channel 450W

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Nice amp! Man, you are going high end aren't you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Anyways, looking at Audison's website it appears as though you must have the LRx 4.300, which is 65w x 4 @ 4ohm.......which just about any component set should handle fine. You could probably even bridge that amp to the front components and be fine as long as you set the gains very conservatively. But, just for reference, I had a 400w RMS x 2 @ 4ohm amp on my Boston Acoustics Pro6.5 comp set and they handled it with ease //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif Now, mind you, not every component set can handle that kinda power............

 

[mr personality 10+ year member]

yup that's the amp.

been saving up for some time. got the amps already but not the speakers, which is why i still need all the inputs i can get from the experts. how was your boston pro6.5? i'm not sure but i heard that boston speakers are good in the midrange. do you think it will sound good for mellow songs?

sad thing is there's nowhere near that i can go to compare boston & mb quart. all they have are jl audio, alpine, pioneer etc + those stuff you'll find in best buy & circuit city.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

The Pro's seem to have a "love 'em or hate 'em" thing going on. People either really liked them or really didn't like them :shrugs:

I personally liked them and didn't feel that they were lacking in the midrange department. Ofcourse, I also listen to mainly rock. For mellow stuff, I honestly think there may be better options. IMO the Pro's were definitely made for the "in your face" kind of crowd (hence the high power handling capabilities), which is the category I fall into. The Z6s are another story though......definitely sound good with jazz. Although they may be out of your budget at $1k retail and $800 online pricetag (and I don't remember what you budget was from the start of this thread.....LOL). And like I said, I can't give a comparison between those and the Quarts //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif Never heard the Quarts.

If you want more opinions, go to http://forum.elitecaraudio.com/index.php (yes, you need to register to view) and ask there in the general section. That is a sound quality oriented board, with many people who have direct experience with the products you are asking about. Many IASCA competitors and world champs.....great people too, very helpful.

 

[mr personality 10+ year member]

squeak, since you emphasize the importance of a good installation process, would it be better off for me to go to best buy / circuit city and get it done. shouldnt be that expensive considering i dont wanna mess up anything at this point in time. what say you?

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Rule #1: Never let Best Buy or Circut City touch your vehicle, and especially your equipment given their high-endness //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif The guys at BB/CC are used to throwing a pair of co-axials in the doors of a car as absolutely fast as possible in order to get the car out of the bay to make way for the next "Deck and two" install. That, and the guys at BB/CC possess very little actual knowledge about the subject. Now, granted, this doesn't apply to every BB/CC employee as there are a few that surf these boards, but they cumulatively account for less than 3% of all BB/CC installers //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

If you don't feel confident that you can properly do the install, then seek out a well respected shop in your area to have the work done. Ask for pictures of their previous work, etc etc.

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

Rule #1: Never let Best Buy or Circut City touch your vehicle, and especially your equipment given their high-endness //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif The guys at BB/CC are used to throwing a pair of co-axials in the doors of a car as absolutely fast as possible in order to get the car out of the bay to make way for the next "Deck and two" install. That, and the guys at BB/CC possess very little actual knowledge about the subject. Now, granted, this doesn't apply to every BB/CC employee as there are a few that surf these boards, but they cumulatively account for less than 3% of all BB/CC installers //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
If you don't feel confident that you can properly do the install, then seek out a well respected shop in your area to have the work done. Ask for pictures of their previous work, etc etc.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/clap.gif.178cba2c538c68e720c727fcb024b19c.gif

also...look into memphis sq series componets...very.very nice sounding speakers. extremely mello...

like stated earlier...u need to go out and listen and let ur ears decide...

with ur amp and budget..i'd do a better three way up front...let two channels of ur amp power the midrange and tweet and bridge two channels to run the midbass (if impedence allows, u might have to buy a 2-way set and add a midbass)..also, i would do as squeak suggests and run a good coaxil in the rears off the h/u..just to add a lil fill...enhances the stereo imaging a bit...

btw...the diamonds are excellent componets, as are id's and focals...but right now i'd go with memphis...they really are that mellow and sound awesome!! don't know if they come in a three way..but u could always add a koda midbass to the mix!!

good luck.....it sounds like ur going to be sounding sweet soon!!

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[mr personality 10+ year member]

now i know. anyway, at first i thought of letting these bb/cc guys install it because they offer a lifetime warranty on the installation as long as i own the car. not that i like these places either, but just trying to be safe since they have outlets everywhere around the country and i can just go to any of them for repair.

oh well. now i think i'll go to the nearest big city and get it installed by a pro audio shop. i guess that will be a smarter & wiser move. thanks guys.

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

now i know. anyway, at first i thought of letting these bb/cc guys install it because they offer a lifetime warranty on the installation as long as i own the car. not that i like these places either, but just trying to be safe since they have outlets everywhere around the country and i can just go to any of them for repair.
oh well. now i think i'll go to the nearest big city and get it installed by a pro audio shop. i guess that will be a smarter & wiser move. thanks guys.

most pro shops offer the same warranty..especially if u bought from them...ie: while ur there listen to some componets

u'll be happier in the end!

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[mr personality 10+ year member]

mrray, i tried searching for memphis speakers in all kinds of search engine, didnt really find anything. you have the official webbie for it?

and by the way, how's the focals on your front? would you recommend them?

oh and if you know focal well, how about focal k2p & utopia

 

[LadyBenzSoundz]

I read your post carefully. All the replies mentioned really good component speakers. I am wondering if you chose the JL 3-way components because you auditioned them in a showroom somewhere or in someone's car? I recommend taking your favorite CD and listening to the speakers that you are considering. My choice was JL Audio's XR-650 2 way in the front and the XR-650 coaxials in the rear. I believe in matching the speakers with similar makeup even for rear fill. The sound is very balanced especially with my headunit's sound correction feature.

I didn't have a brand name bias. My first car audio system had Polk Audio which I loved which has a silk tweeter. I prefer a smoother sound. I don't like harsh and piecing sounds.

You did mention crisp though. That makes me think that you lean towards a more piercing tweeter. Even though the tweeter of the XR JL Audio components are aluminum, they are smooth. I enjoy classical, jazz, gospel, rap, and some rock. I do not play my music at extremely high volumes.

My JL audio components are run off a JL 300/4 amplifier which delivers constant power with minimal noise and distortion. I have an Alpine CDA-9835 headunit. I highly recommend the JL Audio 300/4 for your components in the front and some coaxials in the back.

Three ways don't sound like a bad idea if you have an optimal place to mount them and you set up the crossovers correctly. Otherwise, a two-way might be sufficient.

People on here have good advice, but YOU have to live daily with your choices. You want a stereo upgrade to enhance your vehicle. I say take your time auditioning the speakers. Really listen for the highs. Music type really does matter.

For a smooth sound, I highly recommend Polk Audio db or JL Audio XR components as I have experienced both. After having polk audio for years, the Infinity sound is way too crisp and harsh for my taste but that doesn't mean that they don't satisfy others. It's all subjective. Good luck.

 

[mrray13 10+ year member]

mrray, i tried searching for memphis speakers in all kinds of search engine, didnt really find anything. you have the official webbie for it?
and by the way, how's the focals on your front? would you recommend them?

oh and if you know focal well, how about focal k2p & utopia

memphis car audio website is where u can find some info on any memphis product. u'll also notice that memphis DOES NOT have any authorized internet dealers. everything from their pr series and up is worth a look.

my focals...well, i've had them going on three years. kinda gives u the idea i like them...which i do. they have been really decent componets..at lower power levels. at higher power levels the tweeter is just too aggresive for my taste..that's why i will be buying silk tweeters when money allows, probably the memphis sq series. also, the polyglass series i'm using is just above focal's entry level..the other two series u mentioned are the two above mine. they will handle good power, they don't even come with a rms rating, so u can really push them if u want.

but like i mentioned before and ladybenz just mentioned...u need to go audition the componets ur interested in..especially the tweeters. i like a metallic tweeter, like my focals, at low power..but at higher power levels, the silks just have a much smoother sound to them. but only u will know what u will like.....

so listen to as many different kinds as u can, then u can decide. as ladybenz pointed out..u have to live with ur decision. all we can do is offer advice..

good luck!!

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[mr personality 10+ year member]

thanks guys. all of you have been a great help. will inform y'all shortly after my considering period.