solo x vs. btl

[bcleachd]

the fully loaded btl 12'' against the 12'' solo x WHICH ONE WOULD BE MORE DURABLE in the same box tuned the same and same amp to power it to its full potentials.?

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[azbass 5,000+ posts]

break yo self

 

[CJL 10+ year member]

My guess would be the BTL.

 

[BeesEverywhere! 10+ year member]

the fully loaded btl 12'' against the 12'' solo x WHICH ONE WOULD BE MORE DURABLE in the same box tuned the same and same amp to power it to its full potentials.?

the btl 12'' against the 12'' solo x WHICH ONE WOULD BE MORE DURABLE in the same box tuned the same and same amp to power it to its full potentials.?

"DURABLE" or louder?

I would say both go to the solo-x, but here is why (its quite simple)

larger voice coil (less power compression, less heat, more output)

larger motor

more BL product (almost twice as much BL squared divided by dcr)

larger cone

rubber surround (will not crack)

larger suspension (will get true 3" P2P without being stretched or torn)

the cone is not paper either, not sure what affect that has on durability if any tbh.

The BL and suspension are the dividing factors here, you just can't make up for it, the solo-x can push much more air in the same size box so you can open up the ports and get greater efficiency at resonance. The BTL, while one of the few motors with abnormally high BL product, stands no chance against solo-x or other big league drivers in an equally sized box.

I'll let the pawns on teh forum debate this but here is by closing argument, while I am 100% right (as always), it is VERY important to keep in mind, there is no "BEST" the BTL has its differences and don't forget its also 1/2 the price!

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

S.P.A.I.R. or what ever it is. > all other stuff

 

[GrnEydDvl 10+ year member]

The BTL, while one of the few motors with abnormally high BL product, stands no chance against solo-x or other big league drivers in an equally sized box.

What other big league drivers does it not stand a chance against?

 

[filtor1 10+ year member]

"DURABLE" or louder?
I would say both go to the solo-x, but here is why (its quite simple)

larger voice coil (less power compression, less heat, more output)

larger motor

more BL product (almost twice as much BL squared divided by dcr)

larger cone

rubber surround (will not crack)

larger suspension (will get true 3" P2P without being stretched or torn)

the cone is not paper either, not sure what affect that has on durability if any tbh.

The BL and suspension are the dividing factors here, you just can't make up for it, the solo-x can push much more air in the same size box so you can open up the ports and get greater efficiency at resonance. The BTL, while one of the few motors with abnormally high BL product, stands no chance against solo-x or other big league drivers in an equally sized box.

I'll let the pawns on teh forum debate this but here is by closing argument, while I am 100% right (as always), it is VERY important to keep in mind, there is no "BEST" the BTL has its differences and don't forget its also 1/2 the price!

I am just playing devils advocate. Have you heard both? How many installs have you done with both? How does the drivers P2P have to to with it's SPL potential? And lastly, I have personally witnessed a solo-x cone break apart. I have yet to see a BTL do this. I guess what I am getting at is, why is the BTL cone weaker in your opinion?

I will end by saying I love both companies. Both have competitive products. My dealing with Tracy from Kicker and Scott from Fi have been above and beyond in every instance. I just don't think the BTL would "stand no chance" against the Solo-x.

 

[filtor1 10+ year member]

S.P.A.I.R. or what ever it is. > all other stuff

Definitely a huge advantage when the coils cook. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif I always thought this was an awesome design for that reason.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Chuck Norris would kick both of their butts.

 

[Ctminime 10+ year member]

ya chuck norris can take 20000 watts w/o reaching excursion hahaha

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

"DURABLE" or louder?
I would say both go to the solo-x, but here is why (its quite simple)

larger voice coil (less power compression, less heat, more output)

larger motor

more BL product (almost twice as much BL squared divided by dcr)

larger cone

rubber surround (will not crack)

larger suspension (will get true 3" P2P without being stretched or torn)

the cone is not paper either, not sure what affect that has on durability if any tbh.

The BL and suspension are the dividing factors here, you just can't make up for it, the solo-x can push much more air in the same size box so you can open up the ports and get greater efficiency at resonance. The BTL, while one of the few motors with abnormally high BL product, stands no chance against solo-x or other big league drivers in an equally sized box.

I'll let the pawns on teh forum debate this but here is by closing argument, while I am 100% right (as always), it is VERY important to keep in mind, there is no "BEST" the BTL has its differences and don't forget its also 1/2 the price!

You are an ABSOLUTE imbicile. Plain and simple.

To the OP, you heard my truck... you should have sat in it. Hell I wish I still had my BTL 15 so you could have heard that...

Fi BTL hands down. Game over.

nG

 

[Ford302Redneck 10+ year member]

Yea I doubt Id choose a Solo X over a BTL...

 

[BASSMEKANIK 10+ year member]

solo x ftl... get tha btl. you wont be disapointed

 

[Towncar 10+ year member]

Ide go with the solo x, but either driver will do fine. Both have proven themselves in the lanes. Flip a coin

 

[creyc 10+ year member]

I too would be interested to know what else is a big league driver like the Solo X. Maybe an RE MT?