so i just found out i blew my hdc315 copper :(

[Twisted_0912 10+ year member]

I got the sub used in a trade so even if it was a defect would that even mater?

 

[jbizzle 5,000+ posts]

Aluminum is fine for daily, especially for 3k.

And its not hard at all to take out the soft parts, the only bad part about doing a recone is cleaning off the excess glue..

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

Nice vid Nick.

I might have to drive over to let you hear my setup. Your box sounds really good IMO.

 

[Twisted_0912 10+ year member]

Nice vid Nick.
I might have to drive over to let you hear my setup. Your box sounds really good IMO.

yeah id like to hear one of my boxes besides my own lol. if you want to im game.

 

[terra 5,000+ posts]

I doubt it would be a defect. He already stated he was paying way over rated power below tuning.

 

[Twisted_0912 10+ year member]

I doubt it would be a defect. He already stated he was paying way over rated power below tuning.

yep thats what i was thinking. if it happen at rated power and closer to tuning then it might be a different story

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

yeah id like to hear one of my boxes besides my own lol. if you want to im game.

I will let ya know. Gas prices are sneaking back up there. Was 1.99 down here all of last week and this week is 2.39. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[DJL 10+ year member]

yep thats what i was thinking. if it happen at rated power and closer to tuning then it might be a different story

The biggest killer of subs is making flex vids under tuning with a crap load of power. It only takes about 30 seconds of that abuse before your amps **** the juice out of your batteries and the clipping starts causing your amps to produce gobs of nasty power.

Bassboxing in dbdrag and Streetbeat in USACI only do 30 second runs and those guys for the most part know the limits of their systems and still manage to blow subs. I've seen hundreds of flex vids running up to 3 minutes in length at full power below tuning in full clipp.

The e-mails I get usually begin with "I don't know what happened, I was only running about 1000 watts of clean power......"

 

[mlstrass 5,000+ posts]

Go alum as they sound fine for daily and would be better with the power level you have. And set the SSF correctly or quit listening to that crap music for so long LOL

 

[Twisted_0912 10+ year member]

The biggest killer of subs is making flex vids under tuning with a crap load of power. It only takes about 30 seconds of that abuse before your amps **** the juice out of your batteries and the clipping starts causing your amps to produce gobs of nasty power.
Bassboxing in dbdrag and Streetbeat in USACI only do 30 second runs and those guys for the most part know the limits of their systems and still manage to blow subs. I've seen hundreds of flex vids running up to 3 minutes in length at full power below tuning in full clipp.

The e-mails I get usually begin with "I don't know what happened, I was only running about 1000 watts of clean power......"

yeah i figured it happened when we were taking that video. so what are the recone prices again? do you think i would be better off with alum for my case? the alum recone doesnt have any more spiders does it?

 

[MasterOfAllBass 10+ year member]

The biggest killer of subs is making flex vids under tuning with a crap load of power. It only takes about 30 seconds of that abuse before your amps **** the juice out of your batteries and the clipping starts causing your amps to produce gobs of nasty power.
Bassboxing in dbdrag and Streetbeat in USACI only do 30 second runs and those guys for the most part know the limits of their systems and still manage to blow subs. I've seen hundreds of flex vids running up to 3 minutes in length at full power below tuning in full clipp.

The e-mails I get usually begin with "I don't know what happened, I was only running about 1000 watts of clean power......"[/QUOTE]

Fuckers, they know what they did

 

[DJL 10+ year member]

yeah i figured it happened when we were taking that video. so what are the recone prices again? do you think i would be better off with alum for my case? the alum recone doesnt have any more spiders does it?

It's not so much the number of spiders that count, it's the materials and design of the suspension system. The copper coil has a total of 7 spiders and the aluminum has six but the spider compounds and suspension designs are different. The alum versions are optimized for excursion and higer power and are much better suited for severe abuse.

The subs are rated for 1000 watts RMS and 2000 music. I have never seen an HDC fail on 1000 watts of clean power or 2000 watts on music above box tuning. Most of our customers run several times the rated power and clipp the crap out of the amps. They blow a few subs but have a great time doing it. Recones for AQ subs are very reasonable in price. Actually failure rates are very very low even with the abuse thrown at them.

 

[Fuknmovin 10+ year member]

I can agree, I just thought my HDC315-A was blown from 4K watts, likely clipping too but took it out and found it looked perfect! Ended up being the line driver was Fuc#!$......Glad too I did not want to recone it yet! Love this sub!!

 

[thorshammer1 10+ year member]

how is a different coil material going to keep the spider from ripping //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

It won't but with the aluminum comes a different spider assembly.

do you think it could have been a defect in the way the sub was assembled?shouldnt the stress on that part be the same all the way around the former?

In a perfect world maybe but nothing is an exact science.

on the upside recones are fun. and btw its a ***** to pull the cone out //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Only if the coils frozen in the gap otherwise it should be just fine and pull out easy.

Oh I'm definantly reconing. Probably to alum coil

If your reconing to aluminum it should only be for the different spider setup. In my experience with both I found the copper to withstand daily pounding longer.

Recone for copper HDC315 is 70 with shipping included. Have fun:

 

[Twisted_0912 10+ year member]

If your reconing to aluminum it should only be for the different spider setup. In my experience with both I found the copper to withstand daily pounding longer.

Recone for copper HDC315 is 70 with shipping included. Have fun:

so which, in your opinion, do you think i should get if i keep the powerbass for one. would the aluminums spider setup be better for 3k?