Skar Audio crap

[Imtjnotu 5,000+ posts]

He used other people's pictures and advertised them as the boxes that he made. Then he sent out a VASTLY inferior product. That is a scam, plain and simple. That's equivalent to paying for a Sundown 3000D and getting a Boss 3000D. On top of the blatant misleading and scamming done with the boxes, he then tried to weasel his way out of it by saying that he didn't build the boxes, but that he had hired a couple of guys with "20 years of experience" to do the boxes.
Refer to post #94 for the miserable boxes:

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/thunderdome-forum-members-only/427504-%2475-flat-fee-sealed-enclosures-4.html

I can go on and on...

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SCREWED by Skar/1800woofers/subtillis

WoW scammin: Skar/Subtillis/1800woofers - Page 5 - FloridaSPL "Lulz. i forgot about this,he sold an account,then stole it back a cpl weeks later,then stripped and sold all the equiptment."

This is what we know of...just imagine what we don't know of.

STAND UP GUY INDEED.

But his customers will tell you differently

 

[Durango03 10+ year member]

^^Indeed they will. Thats EXACTLY the point. You guys see his past and avoid his business like a plague. Which is cool and your own choice, but IF his customers all tell a different story. That says your wrong. Plan and simple.

Idc about his past. Your a shady person, "you" being literally anyone reading this thread (Not to include Mother Teresa, AKA. boomin). You have done shady ****. I was once a shady kid. Sh*t happens. If you cant accept the fact he was once a shady kid and NOW all his customers are happy, then cool. But 30 pages.... 30 PAGES!! Because ya'll simple dont like him. What children!! lol

 

[RangerDangerV2 5,000+ posts]

lets see if we can get to 6k poasts!!!!

 

[Durango03 10+ year member]

Btw, those links are just repetitive.. SAME old sh*t in all of them

Link 1) Kevin sells poor quality boxes for $75 shipped (barely covering cost of MDF and shipping Im sure).

Link 2) Kevin tries to sell subs and amp but gets bashed for poor quality sub boxes.

Link 3) Investigative reporter goes undercover to uncover the poor box fiasco

Link 4) Whiny b*tch complains he bought amp on ebay and his money was refunded. Boo-hoo, that has happened to me like 4 times in the past month. Its part of ebay and the sellers right.

Link 5) cant find any actual evidence to this "scamming".. simply your link that leads to a guy refering to it..

Any other pointless/repetitive links you would like to post??? I dont think we have established he sold poor quality boxes yet.. Have any links for that???

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

^^Indeed they will. Thats EXACTLY the point. You guys see his past and avoid his business like a plague. Which is cool and your own choice, but IF his customers all tell a different story. That says your wrong. Plan and simple.
Idc about his past. Your a shady person, "you" being literally anyone reading this thread (Not to include Mother Teresa, AKA. boomin). You have done shady ****. I was once a shady kid. Sh*t happens. If you cant accept the fact he was once a shady kid and NOW all his customers are happy, then cool. But 30 pages.... 30 PAGES!! Because ya'll simple dont like him. What children!! lol

Sorry, but I have never intentionally ripped someone off and misled them in order to make a buck. I'm just not like that. Maybe you are/were, but a lot of people are not, believe it or not. Also, it's not like this was years and years ago...this was all less than 3 years ago. It's also not like these were mistakes and mishaps, like how I can understand shipping a b-stock sub can be an accident if you don't remember what's inside the box or something. But intentionally deceiving people and flat out scamming someone through a fucking computer game is behavior of the utmost level of loserdom.

 

[xShoWTeKx 10+ year member]

Btw, those links are just repetitive.. SAME old sh*t in all of them
Link 1) Kevin sells poor quality boxes for $75 shipped (barely covering cost of MDF and shipping Im sure).

Link 2) Kevin tries to sell subs and amp but gets bashed for poor quality sub boxes.

Link 3) Investigative reporter goes undercover to uncover the poor box fiasco

Link 4) Whiny b*tch complains he bought amp on ebay and his money was refunded. Boo-hoo, that has happened to me like 4 times in the past month. Its part of ebay and the sellers right.

Link 5) cant find any actual evidence to this "scamming".. simply your link that leads to a guy refering to it..

Any other pointless/repetitive links you would like to post??? I dont think we have established he sold poor quality boxes yet.. Have any links for that???

i thoroughly hope you get scammed in the very near future and laugh when you get called a "whiny bitch" //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[Dirtrider4eva 10+ year member]

I don't exactly agree when he was selling sundown sa 8v2 for 185 each when pre order was what, 150? Wasn't a fan..

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

Btw, those links are just repetitive.. SAME old sh*t in all of them
Link 1) Kevin sells poor quality boxes for $75 shipped (barely covering cost of MDF and shipping Im sure).

Link 2) Kevin tries to sell subs and amp but gets bashed for poor quality sub boxes.

Link 3) Investigative reporter goes undercover to uncover the poor box fiasco

Link 4) Whiny b*tch complains he bought amp on ebay and his money was refunded. Boo-hoo, that has happened to me like 4 times in the past month. Its part of ebay and the sellers right.

Link 5) cant find any actual evidence to this "scamming".. simply your link that leads to a guy refering to it..

Any other pointless/repetitive links you would like to post??? I dont think we have established he sold poor quality boxes yet.. Have any links for that???

Did you even read the threads?

Link #2 is also about him describing the amp as a 10/10 when it was obvious to everyone that is was beat up.

Link #4: "The kid who bought it has a thread about him in the feedback section now. That amp is already fu(ked up. The amp was Installed and when he started his car and it went straight to protect. Dudes callin kevin a scammer which is the truth and ppl are still defending him. I don't get it."

"He is a scammer. He told me that amplifier was blown after he sold it to that guy. Now he's planning on going to commit insurance fraud and file a UPS claim for something that was already broken."

From SSA owner

"We have removed 1800Woofers from SSA."

There was another thread about the WoW scamming that I have read before, I just can't find that one right now. But trust me, it happened.

Just got a text from Kevin:

"Tell Durango to loosen the grip on my balls, thanks."

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

I don't exactly agree when he was selling sundown sa 8v2 for 185 each when pre order was what, 150? Wasn't a fan..

$125 pre-order...snatched 8 of them up and the resold for $185.

 

[Dr. Slam 10+ year member]

Btw, those links are just repetitive.. SAME old sh*t in all of them
Link 1) Kevin sells poor quality boxes for $75 shipped (barely covering cost of MDF and shipping Im sure).

Link 2) Kevin tries to sell subs and amp but gets bashed for poor quality sub boxes.

Link 3) Investigative reporter goes undercover to uncover the poor box fiasco

Link 4) Whiny b*tch complains he bought amp on ebay and his money was refunded. Boo-hoo, that has happened to me like 4 times in the past month. Its part of ebay and the sellers right.

Link 5) cant find any actual evidence to this "scamming".. simply your link that leads to a guy refering to it..

Any other pointless/repetitive links you would like to post??? I dont think we have established he sold poor quality boxes yet.. Have any links for that???

Honestly, from the outside looking in, I have two questions. First, why are you defending him so hard like you have something personally invested. Second, why isn't this dude defending himself? I don't give a shit howany times these threads pop up. All a man got is his rep and his balls and he better defend both tooth and nail if he has to.

 

[Durango03 10+ year member]

I am "defending" him for the simple fact that you people are unjust and illogical in your ways of thinking. It has nothing to do with any type of affiliation with Kevin, nor me being a "nuthugger". Hell the way I see it, you Kevin Haters ride his d*ck more than anyone on this forum.. then come out here and talk about how his satisfied customers are the ones jocking his ballz. LOL, its a forum full of children!!!

Regardless, this forum is completely full of people who have never done any wrong. WTF ever. Get over yourself. "I never lied to anyone" "I wouldnt do anything like that, no ever, nope, not me boss". Guarenteed all of you have dirty skeletons in your closet, just his were exposed. Take you holyer than thou sh*t elsewhere. Your all f*ck up's. Get over yourselves.

Btw, Link 4) He admitted to getting a refund from Kevin and was just pissy because he didnt get a killer deal on the amp.. thats not a scam, its a sellers right

 

[Dr. Slam 10+ year member]

You need to chill the fuq out with all of that because I've never said anything bad about the man. Why are you getting so upset because I asked a simple question? And to the last statement, no. I have never played or bs'd someone about their $$$ because ppl get killed daily for that type of shit where I'm from. So don't generalize everybody with those bullshit assumptions. I'm not perfect by any means nor do I strive to be. if you learn one thing growing up in life it's that people do not play with their hard earned money bro. I don't understand how you fail not to realize this.

 

[Durango03 10+ year member]

w/e. My bad man, didnt mean to get heated. Im so done with this crap. Talking logically on here is like trying to teach a 3 year old geometry. Some people are happier in life just being close minded and conceded.

"Ignorance is bliss"

EDIT: I do understand that ppl dont play with their money. Are you kidding me? Im not a child like most on here. But I also know that with all the thread links that have been posted through out 31 pages of BS, the only person to TRULY be scammed for any money is the WoW guy.. and I still have yet to see a thread or any details for that. No t to say it dont exist, but I'd like to see more than someone talking trash, because lets face it.. thats about all this 31 pages amounts to and it equal zeltch. Nothing at all.

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

I am "defending" him for the simple fact that you people are unjust and illogical in your ways of thinking. It has nothing to do with any type of affiliation with Kevin, nor me being a "nuthugger". Hell the way I see it, you Kevin Haters ride his d*ck more than anyone on this forum.. then come out here and talk about how his satisfied customers are the ones jocking his ballz. LOL, its a forum full of children!!!

No, we just like to swat down his sack-riders when they don't know the full story while calling everyone a "hater". There's always a reason(s) why people get hated on, just like eD, Jonathan Demuth, Steve Miller, etc. Just because you don't know all the details doesn't make everyone a blind hater.

Regardless, this forum is completely full of people who have never done any wrong. WTF ever. Get over yourself. "I never lied to anyone" "I wouldnt do anything like that, no ever, nope, not me boss". Guarenteed all of you have dirty skeletons in your closet, just his were exposed. Take you holyer than thou sh*t elsewhere. Your all f*ck up's. Get over yourselves.

You must be a pretty big fuck-up if you think everyone is a fuck-up. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Btw, Link 4) He admitted to getting a refund from Kevin and was just pissy because he didnt get a killer deal on the amp.. thats not a scam, its a sellers right

Refund or not, it was a shady deal lead by lies and intentional misleading. Lying about the functionality, selling them again without giving the first buyer any notice. If these kinds of things don't jump out at you and slap you in the face with a "what a shady dude" opinion, then I don't know what will.

 

[Why So Cereal? 5,000+ posts]

But his customers will tell you differently

True story...which is why he doesn't fix stuff for customers. His customers are already happy //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif