Skar Audio crap

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So u deep throat also
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But no really I'm not defending either parties.

 
He used other people's pictures and advertised them as the boxes that he made. Then he sent out a VASTLY inferior product. That is a scam, plain and simple. That's equivalent to paying for a Sundown 3000D and getting a Boss 3000D. On top of the blatant misleading and scamming done with the boxes, he then tried to weasel his way out of it by saying that he didn't build the boxes, but that he had hired a couple of guys with "20 years of experience" to do the boxes.
Refer to post #94 for the miserable boxes:

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/thunderdome-forum-members-only/427504-%2475-flat-fee-sealed-enclosures-4.html

I can go on and on...

Sundown 1500D and 2x Sundown SA 12's - CHEAP!! [Archive] - Car Audio Forum - CarAudio.com

Subtilis / HBE Gone? - Page 2 - Car Audio Classifieds

SCREWED by Skar/1800woofers/subtillis

WoW scammin: Skar/Subtillis/1800woofers - Page 5 - FloridaSPL "Lulz. i forgot about this,he sold an account,then stole it back a cpl weeks later,then stripped and sold all the equiptment."

This is what we know of...just imagine what we don't know of.

STAND UP GUY INDEED.
THIS? I cannot believe this douchebagg is allowed on this site? He has shown time and again that if he has a chance to sscrew someone over he will. but they let him on because of $. This is the first I heard of his past and after seeing the way he does things, I will never support a lowlife loser like him. I am not saying people cannot change but he just seems like a shady guy that is only out to make $ and could give 2 ssshhits about you or I other than that.

 
People don't change. That's the reason everyone keeps bringing up "old shit."

IMO, that amp fiasco is the most telling and damning evidence of the kind of person he is. He saw a chance to screw someone to help himself and he jumped at it. For what? A couple hundred bucks? Probably less.

There is a (jocular) saying we have at work... "the solution to pollution is dilution." Kevin is just diluting his pollution with Skar. More customers means more chances to diguise his shady dealings. He is still the same person as the guy who scammed with those amps, those boxes and whatever the heck happened with a WoW (world of warcraft?) account. Still want to hear about that one because that is some trifling shit.

I would just say zero fvcks are given because I honestly think Skar is cheap garbage, but it's one of two companies (along with AudioPipe) that I will go out of my way to recommend against.

 
I don't exactly agree when he was selling sundown sa 8v2 for 185 each when pre order was what, 150? Wasn't a fan..
Capitalism, how does it work? Why do you think he SHOULDNT have done that? Should he have sold them at his cost? Why? Because you are bretheren in the car audio world? You slow son?

 
I mean, all companies have happy customers...except for the ones that complain. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
And all companies have complaints.. ALL OF THEM.

This is funny because you guys are "letting people know about him"

So are you gonna go to walmart and set up a picket to let people know how underage small children are used to make there clothes? Or go to an apple forum or store and talk **** about how there product cost 86 bucks to make but they sell it over here for 600+ or how about that car dealership that got that car for 9k they lie and sell it to you for 25k? O wait lets not talk about those scamming *** realtors who take money from the highest bidder because they want the most profit from there sale?

The Wow thing and the box thing are the 2 things that stood out to me. I still met up with him and talked to him face to face to see where his head was at.

I can understand that when your starting out. Especially as young as he is, you make mistakes and bad decisions. You all want to say your bringing these scams to light which is good to let people know both sides of the story. But the sad thing is if a happy customer comes to his aide you jump on them and call them sack riders.. What is mature or fair about that? But yet people who have no dealing and bearing on any of these situations can run rampant with there trash talk to be cool. How mature is that and do you o that everyday at places you frequent? Call them names tell them there garbage...

Lets go to the web look up Kicker complaints. DC complaints DD complaints Mechman DC power etc... You will find mounds of posts from unhappy people also and many many more happy customers..

You have a right to complain true. but these links are still ALL the same *** old **** i have been reading for 3 years its the same 3 incidents over and over and over again. One was ****** boxes ok i agree with that.

Next was selling an amp to someone else for more money (capitalism at its finest) which is every Americans right.

So here we are today, All of the bashing and Trolling, He has went from 1 sub (VVX 12) to

3 lines of subs

full line of amps 800 1500 2500 4500 85.4...

components

and much more in the future.

So how much did all the name calling and post bashing help? Does it make people look at these types of posts and say "wow these guys are idiots" or does it seem more like "they keep beating a dead horse with the same incidents over and over again. Or do you really think people are being "informed?" All these posts are just name callign and finger pointing with no real proof of anything wrong except BAD DECISIONS.

As for the contest it has nothing to do with me, but a lot of people were wondering (including me as i was a contestant also) how you go from being 3rd place to 1st in a day (over 2000 views.) Im just wanting to know how it happened and if it is legit then cool Gratz. These are my words not anyone else, personally don't care too much to give a ****.

So continue on doing what you do Im just so glad my home forums is nothing like this place. We actually have to se each other at events and get together most of you wouldn't make it if this site was that closely knitted.

So keep flaming and hating all of you and RAM i just quoted your posts to address a point.

This is why America has declined people, we take so much joy from tearing each other down. We are lazy spoiled people who ruin not only ourselves but others around us. So much jealousy and envy drives or decline. Its sad really. More people take the time to flame and bash others than trying to make things better for themselves.

 
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