Ron Paul 2012

[fullwoofer2121 10+ year member]

people realize the oil companies make 375 million dollars a day profit......they are making what a top athlete makes in a year in minutes.

 

[globalminds_ent 10+ year member]

all of the republican candidates are nut cases whoever could support any one of them is insane I'm about as far left as u can go but some of the stuff Ron says is very agreeable but he wants to get rid of the civil rights act and newt wants to go back to 1941 seem kinda racist to me

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

ron paul is there years obama. what he says sounds good but wont get done and it not practical.

Someone who can't construct a sentence in their native language is in a good position to say what's practical. Have you read the US Constitution? What sort of economics classes have to taken? Books read?

next reagan? reaganomics help hurt america. ron paul can have all these ideas that sound good. remember barack obama was the presidential candidates who went against the norm....talking we need change from the norm...exactly like ron paul is doing. I sat here four years ago and watch people get suckered into obama. I told them all go ahead and vote for him and a few years I will tell you "told you so"

English motherfucker...do you speak it? Obama's ONLY platform was "hope" and "change" nothing specific, just "hope" "change" and posters that were frightenly reminiscant of Stalin posters.

Ron Paul says good things for our economy. His foreign policy is radical and crazy. He blames America for 9/11. He is a truther. He says that the Bush Administration was joyous at the attacks. He wants to practice isolationism. So while he says a lot of good things, he is far to the extreme with his foreign policy. CONSERVATIVE Republicans will not vote for him for this reason. This means he CANNOT actually get elected. He is the only one that has 0 chance of becoming president. Because of that, nominating him secures obama's victory. Also, running him as a third party candidate secures obama's victory. Nominating any other Republican and keeping paul out of everything makes sure obama gets beat. It's really this simple. Disagree with me and see what happens.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around what's so "conservative" about endless wars and hundreds of billions in foreign handouts that we have to borrow from private banks and China to pay for? The entire establishment has used 9-11 to justify countless agendas that would have never flown without a "catalyzing pearl harbor event" (as the PNAC doccuments suggested we ought to have). Not going to get further on that subject, but if your bullshit sniffer doesn't tell you you're not getting the whole story on that issue I have some real estate to sell you.

Fact is if we had another "atack" next summer the current administration would benefit mightily. The sheeple always hate to switch horsemen mid-apocalypse and being the "tough guy" wartime president/hero is good political hay.

I would have to agree with your conclusion that the masses are not ready to accept RP largely due to the propaganda machine. Our founders (who IMO were vastly wiser and better educated than 99% of todays crop of hacks) were adament about avoiding foreign entanglements and for reasons that will become (if they haven't already) abundantly clear. An economy based on welfare, political hack jobs and who's largest exports are money and war is completely unsustainable. Our privately owned central bank and the banking system as a whole is a fraud on it's face and a house of cards that is getting very precarious.

At what point do we realize that this left-right nonsense is two piles of the same **** and we are being shafted on both sides while thinking we really have some sort of choice. There is a distinct continuity of agenda happening and neither "party" establishment will ever bring any real change....at least for the better.

The day voting actually will make a difference it will be outlawed. I don't even bother anymore.

 

[fullwoofer2121 10+ year member]

ron paul would destroy america worse than anyone. but that is ok because he will ever win. ron paul is trying to gain votes for the druggies who are mostly all liberals while he is a republican. he says people should not have to buy health insurance if they dont want it but we will not turn anyone down at the hospital.....well ron bad enough a lot of people are paying for the medicals bills...let the rest of us who pay for these people to stop paying our insurance and see where that gets you.

 

[fullwoofer2121 10+ year member]

if you dont vote then dont complain. it is called common sense and reading people really well.....I bet you were one of them economic people who read books and invested your money in the stock market thinking you were doing something good and now regret it. its called politics......the dumbest people in america are involved in it. it is nothing hard to figure out. when you seperate yourself from everything that is going on you see how things are.

I know a lot of idiots who invested in the stock market now are working until the day they die.

a lot of other idiots who went and got a college education, got huge debt now and works at a minimum wage job talking about how they are better than it.

 

[ahole-ic]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around what's so "conservative" about endless wars and hundreds of billions in foreign handouts that we have to borrow from private banks and China to pay for?

What is CONSERVATIVE is making sure there is a nation in the first place. Before the Constitution was ever dreamed of we had The Articles of Confederation which basically limited the Federal Government to provide for the common defense. Now define that how you will, but when a foreign nation continually states that it wants to wipe you off the face of the earth and they are attempting to acquire nukes, there is some interest there if you care about existing in the future.

The entire establishment has used 9-11 to justify countless agendas that would have never flown without a "catalyzing pearl harbor event" (as the PNAC doccuments suggested we ought to have). Not going to get further on that subject, but if your bullshit sniffer doesn't tell you you're not getting the whole story on that issue I have some real estate to sell you.

Wow... so you're a "truther"? My bs sniffer is going off in your direction.

Fact is if we had another "atack" next summer the current administration would benefit mightily. The sheeple always hate to switch horsemen mid-apocalypse and being the "tough guy" wartime president/hero is good political hay.

In any other scenario I would agree with that. In this one, this guy has shown an incredible lack of leadership. The iranians have our downed drone and he merely "asked" for it back. They laughed at him and that was that. People may not want to change horses mid stream but obama is no horse. He is more like a sheepdog with a saddle on.

I would have to agree with your conclusion that the masses are not ready to accept RP largely due to the propaganda machine. Our founders (who IMO were vastly wiser and better educated than 99% of todays crop of hacks) were adament about avoiding foreign entanglements and for reasons that will become (if they haven't already) abundantly clear. An economy based on welfare, political hack jobs and who's largest exports are money and war is completely unsustainable. Our privately owned central bank and the banking system as a whole is a fraud on it's face and a house of cards that is getting very precarious.

Our forefathers just came from an oppressive regime known as England. They had seen firsthand mistakes not to make. So yes they had unique insight... but they were talking about not becoming allies with Britain primarily. That much is clear from all documents. George Washington's comments reinforce that as well.) Time has clouded our judgement and our interests have changed as our needs evolved.

At what point do we realize that this left-right nonsense is two piles of the same **** and we are being shafted on both sides while thinking we really have some sort of choice. There is a distinct continuity of agenda happening and neither "party" establishment will ever bring any real change....at least for the better.

They won't while people wait around for the established people in the party to do something. That's why there is a tea party movement. That's why a lot of those guys were voted out in 2010. At this point, a third party can't get the money raised to make a real run at the Presidency. So the clear answer is to claim the party with the ideals most in line with American values and force it in the direction it needs to go.

The day voting actually will make a difference it will be outlawed. I don't even bother anymore.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

ron paul would destroy america worse than anyone. but that is ok because he will ever win. ron paul is trying to gain votes for the druggies who are mostly all liberals while he is a republican. he says people should not have to buy health insurance if they dont want it but we will not turn anyone down at the hospital.....well ron bad enough a lot of people are paying for the medicals bills...let the rest of us who pay for these people to stop paying our insurance and see where that gets you.

They say an infinite number of monkeys banging at random on an infinite number of typewriters would come up with the complete works of Shakespear. This is a fascinating collection of words, but I can't decipher a coherent sentence among them. Please learn to communicate in English and I may decide to respond to whatever point it is you are trying to make.

if you dont vote then dont complain. it is called common sense and reading people really well.....I bet you were one of them economic people who read books and invested your money in the stock market thinking you were doing something good and now regret it. its called politics......the dumbest people in america are involved in it. it is nothing hard to figure out. when you seperate yourself from everything that is going on you see how things are.
I know a lot of idiots who invested in the stock market now are working until the day they die.

a lot of other idiots who went and got a college education, got huge debt now and works at a minimum wage job talking about how they are better than it.

I'm one of those "idiots" that bought gold at 300 an ounce and silver at 8. I have no debt (besides credit cards I pay every month). I enjoy my work and I do hope to work til the day I die.

@ e-crack. I'm not debating 9-11 on this forum (or anywhere at this point). If you really believe the official story (whatever that is these days) I'm sure I won't change your mind. If you believe that some Hajij wants to kill you because he hates your freedom I won't try to argue you out of that one either. On the bright side I forsee endless war in the middle east as part of a continuing agenda... at least until we are totally and unquestinably bankrupt. have no fear whichever "party" is in power you'll at least have that to look forward to.

I would maintain that a little more minding our own business would go a long way and perhaps if we quit poking that hornets nest that the people in that region wouldn't be so upset with us. Stop funding Israel and stop overthrowing their governments would be a decent start. Perhaps stop bombing and occupying their counrties.... I suspect that's pretty extreme though.....

If I were to agree that we needed to either occupy the whole middle east or perform genocide to protect us from their immediate threat of destroying us. How the fawk are we going to pay for it? What happens when China and the rest of our debtors get sick of our collective **** and stop accepting dollars at any reasonable rate of exchange? Whatever "necesity" you see in this present course, how can we sustain it?

Tea party is a joke, like the occupy movement it's a bunch of people who are just pissed and know they're getting screwed, but mostly couldn't find their own arse with a map and have no real leadership, platform, goals, or ideas. We're going to need to do a lot better than that to maintain a first world standard of living.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

Ron Paul is definitely a good speaker. He also doesn't get as much time as anyone else to speak in the debates. I agree with what he says more than anyone else, but it's still a question if any of it will ever really change.

 

[THATpurpleKUSH 5,000+ posts]

I am very against Ron Paul because he wants to get rid of the Department of Education. I have been close to the education system all my life, having family members and family friends that are teachers. As a human resource major I understand the need for one to have a good education and to possess as much knowledge, skill and ability to help find and retain a job. Sadly our education system has failed us, my textbook has stated from an HR Magazine article in 2007, that from a survey of 431 HR Professionals, 40% of employers indicated that high school graduates lack basic skills in reading comprehension, writing and math recquired for ENTRY LEVEL jobs and that 70% of employers said high school graduates are deficient in work habits such as professionalism, critical thinking, personal accountability and time management. This is a very serious issue and will cause labor shortages in the future. We all know the no child left behind program failed miserably but in times like this, it is important that we don't just give up and turn our backs to our education system.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I am very against Ron Paul because he wants to get rid of the Department of Education. I have been close to the education system all my life, having family members and family friends that are teachers. As a human resource major I understand the need for one to have a good education and to possess as much knowledge, skill and ability to help find and retain a job. Sadly our education system has failed us, my textbook has stated from an HR Magazine article in 2007, that from a survey of 431 HR Professionals, 40% of employers indicated that high school graduates lack basic skills in reading comprehension, writing and math recquired for ENTRY LEVEL jobs and that 70% of employers said high school graduates are deficient in work habits such as professionalism, critical thinking, personal accountability and time management. This is a very serious issue and will cause labor shortages in the future. We all know the no child left behind program failed miserably but in times like this, it is important that we don't just give up and turn our backs to our education system.

A lot of what you said has to do with the lack of good parenting in this country. That's not has to do with it more I think. A lot of parents don't care about their children's education. If they did, the students would behave and care more in school, which would allow the school to teach what they need to teach. No support means no education, even if the education is there.

 

[brodeisel 10+ year member]

In my town the parents are all on meth so the kids dont finish school it is sad. I wish our education sytem cared more and had stricter rule slike kida have to pass highschool. I mean its sad when some one cant read or do basic math because the parents dont GaF.

 

[fullwoofer2121 10+ year member]

moral of the story...................ron paul tells people how he will fix america...........not going to happen.........he will never win........if he did our country would be far worse with him then the great gw bush or obama. people can continue to vote for these people and watch it get worse or vote for a real politician who maybe crooked at times but so what all the other great presidents were

FINALLY..........the people here in american need to pull their own weight...people are given too many mulligans and are no respsonible.

 

[globalminds_ent 10+ year member]

tea party is a joke a movement to keep the minorities in this country down that's it if the tea party movement was real it would be a left winged agenda in place and not a corporate **** up organization who pays Sarah Palin half a million dollars for a speech plez lets get real people and right now no one has a chance of beating Obama TBH everyone is too far out there to the right WAY to far to take seriously And all of the states that are trying to put in this 2012 poll tax are red states anyways so come on reps u gotta do better to steal the election from one of the best perz we ever had when it comes to facts and track record

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

people realize the oil companies make 375 million dollars a day profit......they are making what a top athlete makes in a year in minutes.

Yeah, so? Are you aware of how much of their "profit" as you call it goes back into R & D and looking for oil/gas and following all of the regulations spewing out of our federal government? Look it up, you would be surprised to see that if they didn't make that huge "profit", you'd be pedaling a bike and living in a fucking tee pee. Fucking idiot. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

The noobs in this thread are a bunch of ass munching moonbat morons. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

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Oh, and to blow all of your moonbat fucked up minds...I'm voting for Newt. Take that.