Roger Clemens in a lying sack of shit

[ssj2xxgotenxx 10+ year member]

I'll agree with that. For hitting you have to have good hand eye coordination, steroids dont' help that at all. They can make you hit a ball farther but if you can't hit one in the first place you wouldn't make the majors anyways.

I agree with you. It takes many other skills to be a MLB pitcher rather than just how strong you are. It takes coordination, focus, timing, mental mindsets, and yes, physical strength. Out of all those abilities, only the last one can be improved with a controlled substance (i.e. steroids). I would still think he is a great player even if he were found guilty. I believe this because it takes a tremendous amount of talent just getting into the majors. You'd have to be great at every level of baseball in your entire life during high school, college, minors, and then finally shine as a star on SportsCenter.

Let me ask a question to everyone that is against or appalled at his decision to use performance enhancing drug. If you took a massive amount of steroids and you were only asked to pitch one decent game in a MLB baseball setting, could you do it? Probably not, but this man can, and he threw his way into a hall of fame career. I believe this to be true in Barry Bond's situation, but once steroid use venture outside of baseball, it gets a little shaky.

I'm not a Roger Clemens fan, not am I a huge baseball fan, but I understand performance enhancing drugs and physical strength don't display a large advantage with swinging a bat or throwing a ball.

 

[ssj2xxgotenxx 10+ year member]

This story is just blown out of proportions because the media wants to use it to get your attention. Sportscenter, the newspapers, and news use this stuff to get viewers. It's not that big of a deal. But sports is just a big soap opera for men anyways. Reality TV that has a ton of drama that is provided in excitingly jaw dropping fashion.

 

[mr Tibbs 10+ year member]

He's innocent.
We'll find out for sure in a few weeks though.

And how exactly are we going to find out? These allegations are from back in 2000, are we going to go back in time and test for something that was designed to not be picked up by tests, or are you going to take his word for it??

Personally I don't think we will ever know, he will continue to deny it and the other guy will stick to his story, it person a's word against person b's word. The truth lies somewhere in between I would imagine. Your never going to be able to prove it one way or the other.

 

[mattf 5,000+ posts]

I say give them all roids. Who wants to go to a game and watch them hit little boring singles and popups the whole time? If they are all on steroids they will all be better and the game will be more interesting.

 

[bikinpunk 10+ year member]

For some reason, I thought I would open this thread and see Roger Clemens sitting in a sack of shit lying on the floor. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

Oh, wait, now I know why I thought that... because the OP can't spell! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[stuckinok 5,000+ posts]

Canseco was an extremely talented player back in his Oakland days. He was one of the rare combinations of power and speed.

once again he was made that way by steroids!! it was rare because it wasnt natural

 

[yanks fan 10+ year member]

figures a fuggin yank fan would say that... yankees son tranposos
they shouldn't even have careers for being cheaters. Makes you really appreciate the clean players of the game (Griffey, Thomas, etc..)

Not sure what Yankees son tranposos mean but if I had to guess, I'm sure its not something good.

Tell me something though, what good did come out of the Mitchell Report? I'm curious because I haven't found one good thing....

To Mr. Tibbs, how will we find out? Well he has to testify under oath on February 16 (I think thats the day). Besides that, I got nothing. I don't think he'll be dumb enough to lie under oath like another fella.

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

Not sure what Yankees son tranposos mean but if I had to guess, I'm sure its not something good.
Tell me something though, what good did come out of the Mitchell Report? I'm curious because I haven't found one good thing....

To Mr. Tibbs, how will we find out? Well he has to testify under oath on February 16 (I think thats the day). Besides that, I got nothing. I don't think he'll be dumb enough to lie under oath like another fella.

One good thing? Are you joking me?

True or not, this man is trying to weed out the cheaters in a game you obviously enjoy. Would you not like to see honest teams win?

-Scratch that, your a yankees fan. After seeing what they did to Torre, a great manager, I have no respect for anyone in the Yankees Organization.

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

For some reason, I thought I would open this thread and see Roger Clemens sitting in a sack of shit lying on the floor. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif
Oh, wait, now I know why I thought that... because the OP can't spell! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

dude I didn't even spell my username right.

I think Konechiwa is spelled Konichiwa. I don't even think it is one word.

but I get my point across.

he is a sack of shit.

 

[Steelemayne 10+ year member]

innocent

till proven guilty

 

[Idealrealist 10+ year member]

Not sure what Yankees son tranposos mean but if I had to guess, I'm sure its not something good.
Tell me something though, what good did come out of the Mitchell Report? I'm curious because I haven't found one good thing....

To Mr. Tibbs, how will we find out? Well he has to testify under oath on February 16 (I think thats the day). Besides that, I got nothing. I don't think he'll be dumb enough to lie under oath like another fella.

You believing that nothing good has come or will come this only tells me that

you have no respect for the game.

 

[yanks fan 10+ year member]

One good thing? Are you joking me?
True or not, this man is trying to weed out the cheaters in a game you obviously enjoy. Would you not like to see honest teams win?

-Scratch that, your a yankees fan. After seeing what they did to Torre, a great manager, I have no respect for anyone in the Yankees Organization.

Lol. Your not gonna respect me for what Steinbrennar did to Torre. I wanted Torre back. He's the best manager in the game in my eyes. I wish him and Don the best of luck in LA.

So let me get this straight, by telling the public that these high profile athletes have used steroids, he helped the game? Cause in my eyes, he made it worse. None of those players will get suspended or fined. All that report said was all he said she said stuff. The only real evidence they had was on a few players, one of them being Roger, and now we are finding out it was false. I mean come on, how can any one take this report seriously? Doesn't help the fact that Mitchell is on the Red Sox Board of Directors. I find it funny that the Yankees had a bunch of names on the list. Can anyone say biased? lol

 

[yanks fan 10+ year member]

You believing that nothing good has come or will come this only tells me thatyou have no respect for the game.

Lol. I have no respect for the game? More like I have no respect for George Mitchell.

 

[mr Tibbs 10+ year member]

innocent


till proven guilty

That only works in a court of law, the public eye is a totally different game.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[Neptune 10+ year member]

That's the problem with the entire world these days, guilty until proven innocent. Yeah he may be old and still throwing low 90's, doesn't mean he used them. Maybe he did, but if your just saying there's no way he can throw 90's when he's 40 years old, might as well ask every other pitcher who is old and throw's that fast too. Or all the players that hit 50 home runs. What about the football players who can bench like 400 pounds? Should we go investigate them too for steroids? Waste of time leave the man alone...