Roger Clemens in a lying sack of shit

[plushDJ 10+ year member]

Steroids don't make you a great player.

I'll agree with that. For hitting you have to have good hand eye coordination, steroids dont' help that at all. They can make you hit a ball farther but if you can't hit one in the first place you wouldn't make the majors anyways.

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2005-02-23-scholars-steroids_x.htm

Michael Sachs, a sports psychologist and professor of sport kinesiology at Temple University, says while there is little evidence about the effects of steroid use on eye-hand coordination, there is an increase in confidence that comes from having more muscle mass and power.
"Going up to the plate, the batter is going to feel much more confident and in control," he says. "That translates into better overall play, which certainly includes hitting more home runs."

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

I'm simply restating what the doctors said.
The only reason he would have injected lidocane into his *** is to numb his butt cheeks.

joint pain will not go away from injecting it into your ***.

the issue is that he took HGH, which allowed him to recover quicker and be in better shape then he could be (this is why he is 2309421 years old and still can pitch)

I betcha Nolan Ryan took it too.

I personally can give a shit and I am sick of all the steriods allegations.

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

I betcha Nolan Ryan took it too.
I personally can give a shit and I am sick of all the steriods allegations.

and Mark McGwire.

 

[Rmsanger 10+ year member]

The Mitchell report did nothing but ruin peoples careers. It did not help the game of baseball in any way shape or form. Every single person in the report is now linked to steroids whether they did them or not.

figures a fuggin yank fan would say that... yankees son tranposos

they shouldn't even have careers for being cheaters. Makes you really appreciate the clean players of the game (Griffey, Thomas, etc..)

 

[stuckinok 5,000+ posts]

steroids>Losing //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[stuckinok 5,000+ posts]

Honestly who cares? He took steroids so did Bonds so it was an even playing field. More superstars have done it besides Clemens and Bonds. Steroids don't make you a great player.

So your saying Jose Conseco had talent? Hell no! he was a okay ball player and the use of steroids made him a great one in his prime. As for bonds it was HGH not steroids

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

figures a fuggin yank fan would say that... yankees son tranposos
they shouldn't even have careers for being cheaters. Makes you really appreciate the clean players of the game (Griffey, Thomas, etc..)

Alex Rodriguez will show all these cheating bishes how it's done. in 5 or 6 years Barry will no longer have the record.

 

[snova031]

 

[Verlander]

So your saying Jose Conseco had talent? Hell no! he was a okay ball player and the use of steroids made him a great one in his prime. As for bonds it was HGH not steroids

Canseco was an extremely talented player back in his Oakland days. He was one of the rare combinations of power and speed.

 

[Verlander]

Alex Rodriguez will show all these cheating bishes how it's done. in 5 or 6 years Barry will no longer have the record.

According to Canseco, A-rod isn't exactly clean, and after this Mitchell report, Canseco suddenly seems credible.

 

[snova031]

goodness Gracious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

He's not even big muscle wise. Sure he's big, but he looks like he's all fat. You ever see the pics of him squatting they replay all over espn? He's squatting like 80lbs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

most athletes use HGH and steriods to recover quicker not necessarily to build bulk. baseball players have an entirely different weight training that has nothing to do with how much weight they can put up. their workouts are geared toward flexibility not bulking up. its probably just as difficult to squat 80 lbs a couple hundred times as it is to squat 400 lbs 5-10 times.

 

[SRim23 5,000+ posts]

So your saying Jose Conseco had talent? Hell no! he was a okay ball player and the use of steroids made him a great one in his prime. As for bonds it was HGH not steroids

actually bonds, canseco, and mcgqwire were all allstars before they bulked up. all the roids or whatever they took gave them the ability to do was avoid injury and hit the ball a mile. roids dont exactly make you see a baseball or catch any better than you did before.

 

[lightningbolt44 10+ year member]

who cares who took them fact is when MOST of these guys took the stuff it wasnt against mlb rules. So lemme ask you if you could do something to make you better at your job and maybe make you millions more would you im willing to bet for most people its a yes. So before you go saying all this crap just think if youve ever done anything shady to get ahead at something weather it is break the rules, law or just throwin someone under the bus Everyone does things to get ahead if you dont chances are you wont be as succesful as the person that does.

This is a general statement i by no means encourage the use of roids or hgh and it is a genralization.