Not really brutes, and not especially loud (comparing it to others at same price). I can't tell you how much of a mistake you would be making getting this when there are hundreds of better woofers for half the price. My buddy just picked up an FI SSD 18" for $300 shipped (brand new, from FI) with all the available options, and it can handle near the same power, and it will walk all over the t2 as far as sq goes. If you really want bang-for-buck, look for used stuff...just please, do yourself a favor and don't get a T2!