Review on the Evo-R 2315

BB --

quote:

"it wasn't a great review.. Considering Tom tore up one woofer.. and both woofers sent to him to Test.. were glued 11 mm forward of center... "

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LOL!

Funny, I have never seen a reviewer use the words "fantastic" so much in any other car review...

Let me set you straight on a few facts:

The first driver submitted was tested to make sure it worked properly. This driver managed to SMASH the SPL records EVER recorded by Mobile Ent. (set by the 12 W7) by 2 - 3 dB!!!!! (both for peak SPL and for output from 25 - 62 Hz, with low-distortion).

And the EVO-R managed that in an identical 1.5's box (as used to test the JL 12).

And IF the sub had been tested in a 30 - 50% larger box, it would have had added another 2 - 3 dB under 25 Hz. (or if the JL was tested in a smaller box, it would have done a couple of dB less under 25 Hz).

The EVO-R also managed to have a flatter frequency response (in-car) then the JL W7 did (not bad for a 15 in a small box). And for most people, 130 dB, 'flat' to 10 Hz., is more then adequate.

It is hard to imagine how you can call this anything less then a stellar review...

http://www.AudiomobileInc.com/reviews.htm

The fact that Tom managed to put a hole in the surround, which resulted in a frantic call from them to overnite a second sample for DUMAX testing. So we did not have the time to test that sub properly....

quote:

"that it must be a problem limited to just those two drivers...... but that would be a lie... "

And how would YOU even have any idea? You don't...you just like to spread baseless rumors....

The first sample was offset a much smaller amount, or else it could NOT have achieved the SPL numbers (especially the low-distortion / test-tone output) UNLESS it had comparable linear Xmax to the JL (26 mm). As the cone area difference will account for 2 - 3 dB (as mentioned in the article), but ONLY if the linear excursion envelope is similar.

Those subs were submitted last year, prior to production units being built, all of which have featured our new manufacturing proceedure/jig, which insures that the VC is properly centered.

The fact that DUMAX independently measures the Xmag (motor behavior) and the Xsus (suspension) travel, BOTH of which confirmed a linear travel of 28 mm, just goes to validate what the EVO-R subs can do. As mentioned, with the VC properly centered (within 5 - 6 mm) the Xmax will certainly meet our published specs.

Just so you have your facts straight...

Matt

Audiomobile

 
Originally posted by Matt Overpeck BB --

 

quote:

 

"it wasn't a great review.. Considering Tom tore up one woofer.. and both woofers sent to him to Test.. were glued 11 mm forward of center... "

___________________________________________________

 

 

LOL!

 

Funny, I have never seen a reviewer use the words "fantastic" so much in any other car review...

 

Let me set you straight on a few facts:

 

The first driver submitted was tested to make sure it worked properly. This driver managed to SMASH the SPL records EVER recorded by Mobile Ent. (set by the 12 W7) by 2 - 3 dB!!!!! (both for peak SPL and for output from 25 - 62 Hz, with low-distortion).

 

And the EVO-R managed that in an identical 1.5's box (as used to test the JL 12).

And IF the sub had been tested in a 30 - 50% larger box, it would have had added another 2 - 3 dB under 25 Hz. (or if the JL was tested in a smaller box, it would have done a couple of dB less under 25 Hz).

 

The EVO-R also managed to have a flatter frequency response (in-car) then the JL W7 did (not bad for a 15 in a small box). And for most people, 130 dB, 'flat' to 10 Hz., is more then adequate.

 

It is hard to imagine how you can call this anything less then a stellar review...

 

http://www.AudiomobileInc.com/reviews.htm

 

The fact that Tom managed to put a hole in the surround, which resulted in a frantic call from them to overnite a second sample for DUMAX testing. So we did not have the time to test that sub properly....

 

quote:

 

"that it must be a problem limited to just those two drivers...... but that would be a lie... "

 

And how would YOU even have any idea? You don't...you just like to spread baseless rumors....

 

The first sample was offset a much smaller amount, or else it could NOT have achieved the SPL numbers (especially the low-distortion / test-tone output) UNLESS it had comparable linear Xmax to the JL (26 mm). As the cone area difference will account for 2 - 3 dB (as mentioned in the article), but ONLY if the linear excursion envelope is similar.

 

Those subs were submitted last year, prior to production units being built, all of which have featured our new manufacturing proceedure/jig, which insures that the VC is properly centered.

 

The fact that DUMAX independently measures the Xmag (motor behavior) and the Xsus (suspension) travel, BOTH of which confirmed a linear travel of 28 mm, just goes to validate what the EVO-R subs can do. As mentioned, with the VC properly centered (within 5 - 6 mm) the Xmax will certainly meet our published specs.

 

Just so you have your facts straight...

 

Matt

 

Audiomobile
why can't you just shut up...?

Why why why......

Its so sad and gets so old to see your pathetic signature spouting and babbling how you are so misunderstood and mistreated, abused, attacked....

"just so you get your facts straight" ....." "...you just like to spread baseless rumors...."

geez man....have some self respect you pathetic-"fantastic"-unmanly sissyboy....

 
Upon reading the review, there is nothing I glean from the article that tom says it's simply fantastic..

Basically what I got from it was:

"If you are a basshead and have some space to lose, then this will fit the bill. If not, a suitable 12" woofer is a better contender and will do just about as much."

Anyone else with the ME article, please collaborate with my paraphrasing and see if you agree with my layout.

 
Didn't you learn in high school, rumors mean alot. Something like if a guy is accused of **** and murder, and it goes big, and alot of ppl hear about it, and is later released because of evidence he is innocent, it doesnt matter, his reputation is gone, even though he didnt do those things and probably told everyone, HIS REPUTATION WILL ALWAYS BE CHANGED AND IT WILL RUIN HIM. JUST LIKE YOU, it doesnt matter anymore even if everything you say is right, IT's not going to change the way people feel about your company, everyone sees your an ******* and all and you lost alot of customers, deal with it.

 
Originally posted by Matt Overpeck  

The first driver submitted was tested to make sure it worked properly. This driver managed to SMASH the SPL records EVER recorded by Mobile Ent. (set by the 12 W7) by 2 - 3 dB!!!!! (both for peak SPL and for output from 25 - 62 Hz, with low-distortion)

 

It is hard to imagine how you can call this anything less then a stellar review...

 

http://www.AudiomobileInc.com/reviews.htm
good job picking out parts of the review.. you not man enough to post the whole article?

Its a 15 verus a 12 matt... surely you don't expect the 12 to win... I know you're not that ****ing stupid...

The fact that Tom managed to put a hole in the surround, which resulted in a frantic call from them to overnite a second sample for DUMAX testing. So we did not have the time to test that sub properly....
Have you even read the Review? Its right there in ****ing print... he bent the cone, because of the woofer being glued high... He mentioned nothing of a surround tear.. He also mentioned that BOTH ...

Hold up.. get your fingers out in front of you Matt... COUNT ONE FINGER... TWO FINGER...

BOTH drivers were similiarily offset...

You'd better grasp that sealed box performance, and hold it tight.... Your woofers don't do worth a shit ported... I've seen them in action... They don't stand a chance in the SPL lanes... W7 OWNS IT PORTED, and sounds better as well...

So to Sum up... Its real easy to proclaim your woofer top... when nothing else in the 15" woofer market has been tested.... (whoo hoo.. 15 is louder than a bunch of 12"s.. its' amazing, genius, blah blah blah..)

I sure hope Tom tests one of the many truely "STELLAR" 15" woofer on the market....

Loyd L.

 
Originally posted by TheOol I thought Loyd was the one who blew the 9515
We tore all 3 spiders off the former.... does that count?

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Just a little overexcursion from a 12hz tone in a 50hz+ tuned box... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
just thought i would show this to yall

"the EVO had nearly twice the stroke (and therefore, nearly twice the displacement) of the other two 10's here. Just note the near 120 dB SPL at 10 Hz" //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif is that possible with 10s

 
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