Relay wiring help

[RKaudioking]

How do you wire a relay for a alarm with only one ignition/starter output being installed on a car with 2 ignition/starter input? Ive heard two examples so far:

1. 85-primary starter output wire

86-vehicle starters ground out when running

87-12v

30-second starter output wire

2. 85-primary starter output wire

86-12v

87-12v

30-second starter output wire

Is one of those right about the second starter? And what about a second ignition??I would like to know the real and right answer so I'm asking for help. Thank you for reading.

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[CrossoverOre 10+ year member]

Heres what you do. maintain the connection of the ignition output wire to the primary ignition wire of the vehicle, and the same with the starter wire. Then you tap each wire and run them to each relay.

86 - tapped wire from r.s. brain to vehicle harness connection.

85 - GND

87 - 12v

30 - 2nd ign or starter wire.

this will work for both 2nd ign and starter