R.I.P Amy Winehouse...

[mast240 10+ year member]

i dont disagree with what he says once your addict you can go right back to that life at any point...it is a disease and is passed down through genetics they say...any thing can set you of... its not easy to "just quit" especially if your using a drug like heroin or something that makes you physically ill when you dont have it... the withdrawls can be insanely bad...diareaha, body aches like you wouldnt believe, your hot one second, freezin cold the next, you throw up... and what makes that hard to just sit there and take is you know exactly what will make you instantly feel better... nobody starts doing drugs saying man i hope this gets really out of hand fast..it just happens.. i never thought in a million years i would have been on drugs like i was i wouldnt even smoke pot in high school.. i got mixed up with a girl who had a drug problem and tried it and it just escalated til i was spending 200-300$ easy every day on drugs and not paying my bills.
you wouldnt believe how many friends/people i know have OD'd and died in just the past year...its atleast a dozen and thats no exaggeration...and they are all in the their early/mid twenties....

trust me bro... i dont disagree with that at all.. i have had my own experiences with addiction as well... so i understand the situation. all i'm saying is that when someone says, will power has nothing to do with it... i call bs. not saying its not a VERY HARD thing to quit, and that it doesnt take more will power than other people couldnt even imagine... but i think that will power is probably the biggest factor in it all. especially when we're talking about some cracked out whore, who's song says "rehab, no no no", u kno

 

[mast240 10+ year member]

They need to WANT to get better and build the support system they need to survive.

thats what i'm reffering to when i say will power... TRUST ME BRO... i'm in no way trying to say that one can just will himself off their addiction, and thats it... but they need to have the willpower to get help. i myself was REALLY bad years back bro... and will be an addict the rest of my life... even tho i've been clean for almost a decade now.

all i'm saying is that when people try to say that there is NO way an addict can get away from their addiction, i have to call BS... it is hard, i kno... prolly one of the hardest things i ever did, but i did it... and at the time, i never thought in a millions years i would... but with the right willpower and proper help... i did

 

[slammedincouch 10+ year member]

 

[jtomsic 5,000+ posts]

trust me bro... i dont disagree with that at all.. i have had my own experiences with addiction as well... so i understand the situation. all i'm saying is that when someone says, will power has nothing to do with it... i call bs. not saying its not a VERY HARD thing to quit, and that it doesnt take more will power than other people couldnt even imagine... but i think that will power is probably the biggest factor in it all. especially when we're talking about some cracked out whore, who's song says "rehab, no no no", u kno

i dont know if it was will power or me just wakin up one morning like...what the ****...look at my life... you just finally hit a point that your sick of that lifestyle... some people love that lifestyle just as much as the high..the rush of goin to get the drugs and havin to find them. i had to move out my house, break up with the girl i was engaged to, stop talking to every single one of my friends, change my phone number, and find some other hobbies again like...car audio lol... althought everybody i ever knew that od like her, went to rehab.. come out tried to get high and did too much and fell out. i think i got sick of all the lying you have to do to everybody more than anything with drugs..i was lying to my family, my friends, my job...was crazy.

 

[mast240 10+ year member]

i dont know if it was will power or me just wakin up one morning like...what the ****...look at my life... you just finally hit a point that your sick of that lifestyle... some people love that lifestyle just as much as the high..the rush of goin to get the drugs and havin to find them. i had to move out my house, break up with the girl i was engaged to, stop talking to every single one of my friends, change my phone number, and find some other hobbies again like...car audio lol... althought everybody i ever knew that od like her, went to rehab.. come out tried to get high and did too much and fell out. i think i got sick of all the lying you have to do to everybody more than anything with drugs..i was lying to my family, my friends, my job...was crazy.

yea bro... pretty much the same thing with me... had one of those "WAKE THE F UP" moments... thats what it takes... that and the strength to realize you have a problem, and need to get help

 

[jtomsic 5,000+ posts]

yea bro... pretty much the same thing with me... had one of those "WAKE THE F UP" moments... thats what it takes... that and the strength to realize you have a problem, and need to get help

i knew i had a problem long before that lol..i just didnt give a ****.. i was always around drugs my whole life to be honest...all my boys sold coke/crack and weed but i didnt really mess with coke unless i got drunk..but i met that girl and she came down from detroit and i guess had a prob with dope up there before she moved down...and like 9 months of dating her i tried it and bam...took off like a jet never missed a beat after that lol. she loved it cause she was a broke ***** livin off me im sure. got rid of her tho lsat year before thanksgiving and havent fucked up since that day...

 

[slammedincouch 10+ year member]

i knew i had a problem long before that lol..i just didnt give a ****.. i was always around drugs my whole life to be honest...all my boys sold coke/crack and weed but i didnt really mess with coke unless i got drunk..but i met that girl and she came down from detroit and i guess had a prob with dope up there before she moved down...and like 9 months of dating her i tried it and bam...took off like a jet never missed a beat after that lol. she loved it cause she was a broke ***** livin off me im sure. got rid of her tho lsat year before thanksgiving and havent fucked up since that day...

Bad Women are the source to most of my friends' problems; lost a ton of friends to similar situations

 

[mast240 10+ year member]

J, good on ya bro.... keep strong

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

thats what i'm reffering to when i say will power... TRUST ME BRO... i'm in no way trying to say that one can just will himself off their addiction, and thats it... but they need to have the willpower to get help. i myself was REALLY bad years back bro... and will be an addict the rest of my life... even tho i've been clean for almost a decade now.
all i'm saying is that when people try to say that there is NO way an addict can get away from their addiction, i have to call BS... it is hard, i kno... prolly one of the hardest things i ever did, but i did it... and at the time, i never thought in a millions years i would... but with the right willpower and proper help... i did

I hear you in that you have to WANT to stop and get help. If you aren't buyin' that, the disease will kill you. The other problem with this disease is that it doesn't just affect the addict. It will take down the family and friends around the addict as well. It was well said by an LDAC I know that the family/friends of an addict live in the "splatter zone". I have first hand experience with that, for sure. That's what al-anon is all about. Basically 12 step for the family and friends of the addict.

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

yea bro... pretty much the same thing with me... had one of those "WAKE THE F UP" moments... thats what it takes... that and the strength to realize you have a problem, and need to get help

Yup, I hear you there. It's called reaching your bottom. Problem is, a lot of addicts don't know where that bottom is until it is too late.

Alcoholism will typically kill you slowly over time, but there is a laundry list of ways the alcoholic can die, from liver disease to car wrecks.

Drugs are a shitload scarier. And it's our younger generation that is losing that battle. I don't know if you know about one of the top treatment centers in the country, it's called Caron and their main campus is located in Wernersville, PA. If you are ever in the area on a Sunday, attend chapel from 8:30A to 10:30A at the Chit Chat auditorium. Fr. Bill runs it along with two other pastors and a rabbi. It is powerful. Especially when the adolescents and young adults who are there for treatment come in and tell their stories of the friends they have lost to addiction. 13, 14, 15+ year old kids shouldn't have 1/2 dozen or more friends they have known die due to drugs. It's sad and it is killing that generation. Addiction isolates you. It's a soul killing disease. It separates you from yourself, your family, your friends and any spiritual connection you have to your higher power, whatever that may be.

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

i dont know if it was will power or me just wakin up one morning like...what the ****...look at my life... you just finally hit a point that your sick of that lifestyle... some people love that lifestyle just as much as the high..the rush of goin to get the drugs and havin to find them. i had to move out my house, break up with the girl i was engaged to, stop talking to every single one of my friends, change my phone number, and find some other hobbies again like...car audio lol... althought everybody i ever knew that od like her, went to rehab.. come out tried to get high and did too much and fell out. i think i got sick of all the lying you have to do to everybody more than anything with drugs..i was lying to my family, my friends, my job...was crazy.

You hit it right on the head and figured it out. Good for you! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsup.gif.3287b36ca96645a13a43aff531f37f02.gif

Lies, obsession, isolation...not a healthy way to live. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[RAM_Designs 5,000+ posts]

Am I the only one here who doesn't know of a friend who has died from drugs?

 

[thevic24 5,000+ posts]

Am I the only one here who doesn't know of a friend who has died from drugs?

I am with you on this.

Now with that....I know a few who have died while doing something stupid while on drugs but not from drugs them selves.

 

[bigwheel15 10+ year member]

Gonna go do some drugs brb

 

[subzero 5,000+ posts]

ok so what the fuck is she famous for again? post pics of said fame.