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[Freestyler717 10+ year member]

very true that it is possible to live well in mexico but their is a greater chance of doing it here and most likely the people that live well in mexico are either drug dealers or already come from a generation of wealthy families.i dont agree with the fact that they take away our jobs but i do agree that they do the jobs that nobody wants how many blacks asians whites or other race do you see or hear about picking fruit or cutting grass close to none and those are the jobs that have the highest rate of being done by illegals

Dude, when I went to visit my cousins in Georgia I saw the impossible.... white people doing the "dirty work". Whites were building homes, gardening, etc. I was in shock.

 

[turn it up 10+ year member]

I dont have problems with them taking jobs nobody wants but they do milk the system through welfare, non tax paying, and driving around with no insurance etc.. And not to mention bringing over gangs such as MS-13 and drugs in America. That's the kinda sh!t that's killing our economy and causing tension.

 

[rob_z89 10+ year member]

i totally agree with you about them bringing over gangs but those gangs did not originate in mexico so those would be from other south american countries but i have no respect for those that do belong to a gang such as ms-13 although most illegals dont pay taxes i have family members who have actually payed taxes and have a drivers liscence and insurance own a home and everything the thing that bothers me is once people find out you are illegal they treat you like garbage they are just here trying to provide for their family i understand that their is people that take advantage of the situation but their is also others that dont

 

[Prowler573 5,000+ posts]

i totally agree with you about them bringing over gangs but those gangs did not originate in mexico so those would be from other south american countries but i have no respect for those that do belong to a gang such as ms-13 although most illegals dont pay taxes i have family members who have actually payed taxes and have a drivers liscence and insurance own a home and everything the thing that bothers me is once people find out you are illegal they treat you like garbage they are just here trying to provide for their family i understand that their is people that take advantage of the situation but their is also others that dont

I have no respect for people that are in a gang, period.

I tell 'em like my dad likes to tell 'em.

Wanna be in a gang? Wanna be in a real gang? Wanna carry a gun? Wanna travel around and kill people?

Join the fucking Army.

 

[rob_z89 10+ year member]

yes i agree with you but i can say most gangs do not go around killing innocent children or mother like ms 13 does or atleast not the gangs that i am used to hearing of over here

 

[turn it up 10+ year member]

Yes the ones who work hard to provide for their families, I have nothing against. It's just the ratio of bad vs. good illegals are pretty high and I think that's where people make assumption. Like California's prison is getting overcrowded and thats why people see a trend where the bad ones are going. Traffic is also bad here because there are a lot of people who dont have insurance and shouldnt be driving. For the most part of the good ones I agree with you that they derserve to be citizens.

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

^^^Mexico is a corrupt country. Sure you can live well there, I could surely buy a beutiful home there, but the people there with money usually get it from corruption. The truth is the government doesnt care about the people, there is nearly zero dollars going to the people in the forms of health care, public works, work programs, welfare etc. and people there do work hard to make a meager income. Probably 80% of the people there live below the "american poverty line". People do anything they can to make money and support their families.

Put yourself in their shoes.

Say you have a wife and two kids. Everynight you go to bed hungry because you give what food you could afford to your family. You all live in a one-room shack with a roof made from plywood. There is no running water, no gas, no electricity. Your kids have never had a new toy. Your wife is wearing the same clothes from 10 years ago. You must take showers in a watering hole.

You want the best for you family.... the best is just across the border. What would you do? Even some of the worst conditions in America are better than the average conditions in Mexico.

Not to point you out, but I see waaaay too many people using this arguement. My problem isnt really about them being here, my problem is the protesting and demands they are making. If I was illegal and came here to get money to support my family, I would do the work, get my money and shut the fuk up.

Also, if you want to use that example, think of a drug dealer from the "ghetto". He needs a way to support his family, they go to bed hungry everynight, he sees drugs around him, and people making money from it. He starts selling drugs.....does that mean its ok? Does that mean he is exempt from the law because his family is hungry? NO he will still go to jail if caught.

Same thing for a prosititute..........

So should be the same for an illegal immigrant.

Prostitutes arent protesting, drug dealers arent protesting. They know its illegal. Part of the game.

 

[Freestyler717 10+ year member]

Not to point you out, but I see waaaay too many people using this arguement. My problem isnt really about them being here, my problem is the protesting and demands they are making. If I was illegal and came here to get money to support my family, I would do the work, get my money and shut the fuk up.
Also, if you want to use that example, think of a drug dealer from the "ghetto". He needs a way to support his family, they go to bed hungry everynight, he sees drugs around him, and people making money from it. He starts selling drugs.....does that mean its ok? Does that mean he is exempt from the law because his family is hungry? NO he will still go to jail if caught.

Same thing for a prosititute..........

So should be the same for an illegal immigrant.

Prostitutes arent protesting, drug dealers arent protesting. They know its illegal. Part of the game.

Yeah, I agree with you but im just saying that if that's there only hope than they will do whatever they can... under any circumstances.

I think the solution to this problem lies in fixing the Mexican government. (Hopefully not by war though)

 

[wilzyx 5,000+ posts]

logic train missed you as well. there are people in this country that would work JUST the SAME as them if they would be given jobs and not illegals. homeless people will do anything for money, and i BET they would work for it. This would 1. get them off the street and 2. lower the homeless rate across the whole board. I don't think outsourcing should be allowed either.
Ive said it time and time again, your way of life and style of living is directly proportionate to your work ethic. These ****ers didn't TRY to live well in mexico, it IS possible to live well in mexico, i've seen it.

lol, getting rid of all the illegals will solve homeless peoples problems. how do you think they got their in the first place? they had a great high paying job and some illegal alien snuck up and stole it from them and there is not a single job left in the country, so they had to become homeless? if they really wanted to better themselves they could, but most wont.

we were once allies, but now we are destined to fight a never ending battle of 2 immortals who can wang upon all those non believers in a firestorm of owels saying "orly?"

dam straight!

edit: i dont know how the hell that quote got there, it was supposed to be prowlers army thing but w/e