Question for religious people.......

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Fuck all you retards debating this worthless topic that can't be settled until we all die or get a delorean with the flux capacitor option.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

i fail to see how the old testiment law has anything to do with the new testiment covenant.

Why study the old testament if it doesn't matter anymore?

 

[2fnloud 10+ year member]

Why study the old testament if it doesn't matter anymore?

It does matter, there are all sorts of links between Old and New Testament.

Isaiah 53:1-12

Who was the "one" mentioned here in the book Isaiah?

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Acts 8:26-38

And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.

Act 8:27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,

Act 8:28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.

Act 8:29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

Act 8:30 And Philip ran thither to [him], and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

Act 8:31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

Act 8:32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:

Act 8:33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.

Act 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

Act 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

Act 8:36 And as they went on [their] way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, [here is] water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him

So 500 years before Jesus was walking the Earth, He is written about in Isaiah, and the two Testaments are not related?....I believe not.

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

why the differences? what were the reason for the changes? Is this why muslims dont respect/accept the new testament?

 

[kmanian 5,000+ posts]

Why are you coming back to the morals thing now instead of following up with what I said earlier? As I already just mentioned, morals are developed by what we would and would not like done to ourselves, as well as what is best for society. This is demonstrated in all walks of life on this planet, including humans.
This notion that you need religion to have morals is ridiculous...I have no religion, and yet I have morals. How could that have happened without the Bible?

hey smart guy, were you raised isolated from our society? I think not, our society has morals that are directly related to a religious begining.

Answers me this,

what do I lose if I am wrong?

what do you lose if you are?

I also don't understand why you want to attack the intellagence of the other side of this debate. why?

 

[kmanian 5,000+ posts]

Fuck all you retards debating this worthless topic that can't be settled until we all die or get a delorean with the flux capacitor option.

why are you here if you don't like the topic?

 

[kmanian 5,000+ posts]

Why are you coming back to the morals thing now instead of following up with what I said earlier? As I already just mentioned, morals are developed by what we would and would not like done to ourselves, as well as what is best for society. This is demonstrated in all walks of life on this planet, including humans.
This notion that you need religion to have morals is ridiculous...I have no religion, and yet I have morals. How could that have happened without the Bible?

by the way, where do you get the difinitive origin of morality? surely you didn't read it in some book written by a super smart secular professor from Berkley

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

hey smart guy, were you raised isolated from our society? I think not, our society has morals that are directly related to a religious begining.
Answers me this,

what do I lose if I am wrong?

what do you lose if you are?

I also don't understand why you want to attack the intellagence of the other side of this debate. why?

Morals were around long before religion so that is moot.

And if you really want to discuss what you lose or I lose I would be more than happy to, but you really wont like what I have to say, nor would it change your mind so again, that is moot as well.

 

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hey smart guy, were you raised isolated from our society? I think not, our society has morals that are directly related to a religious begining.
Answers me this,

what do I lose if I am wrong?

what do you lose if you are?

I also don't understand why you want to attack the intellagence of the other side of this debate. why?

Religion isn't needed for a moral compass. Cavemen did things that helped the community, because ultimately it helped them. It is a basic understanding that doesn't need religion to be facilitated.

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

hey smart guy, were you raised isolated from our society? I think not, our society has morals that are directly related to a religious begining.
Answers me this,

what do I lose if I am wrong?

what do you lose if you are?

I also don't understand why you want to attack the intellagence of the other side of this debate. why?

you say some really off the wall shit.

 

[2fnloud 10+ year member]

Morals were around long before religion so that is moot.

I would love to know why you believe that?

Nevermind, I read into moality in Wikipedia, was enlightening on my part. I was thinking in more along the lines of Moral Athority

 

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why are you here if you don't like the topic?

A. I am "The Lounge"

B. I like to laugh at retards

C. You retards keep bumping it to the top.

Now go twiddle your holy ****.

 

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you say some really off the wall shit.

Indeed.

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

I would love to know why you believe that?

Let me ask you this. Say you were one of the first people on earth. You and one other person are there(he walks into your area), you have basic communication skills, no other knowledge.

What are some of the first rules you would make?

examples, well what i would say.

No killing. No stealing.

You dont need religion to tell you that you are doing something wrong. Or that you are being wronged by someone else. Its a feeling. Even little kids understand this.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

I would love to know why you believe that?

Morality comes from within, not from some 'supreme being'.