Question for religious people.......

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

at the end of the day we still have free will. God has a plan for us all, doesnt mean we all follow it.

Not follow it? What the fuck? He has already decided your fate according to this divine plan idea. To say you still have free will means...(dun dunnn dunnnnnnnn)...There is no divine plan. No fate. No predestination. All a sham.

So which one is it, divine plan or free will?

 

[BoomBoomBoy 10+ year member]

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Are you familiar with the Philosophers that sat around and developed methods of controlling large groups of people through talking far before Christianity came about?

Are you familiar with how long those methods worked? Not real long. At least as it's recorded by written history.

How do you account for Judaism lasting for over 3,500 years and Christianity lasting for 2,000 years? You sure don't have much faith in the human race.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

that is a HUGE and ridiculous assumption. hahaha what were you thinking?

Yeah, I almost forgot to put that in there. Didn't want to delete everything I had already typed out though.

 

[mokedaddy 5,000+ posts]

Not follow it? What the fuck? He has already decided your fate according to this divine plan idea. To say you still have free will means...(dun dunnn dunnnnnnnn)...There is no divine plan. No fate. No predestination. All a sham.
So which one is it, divine plan or free will?

Couldnt cause and effect be construed as fate?

 

[dragnix 5,000+ posts]

I have faith that there are enough stupid people that still follow them

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

The universe is all the more beautiful without a man in the sky using us as toys.
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even more so when on shrroms.

nope, probably blaze with Jesus!!!!

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I want to do it after I retire. But punks around here have a tendancy to throw homeless people in the river.

keep your shotgun.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

Are you familiar with how long those methods worked? Not real long. At least as it's recorded by written history.
How do you account for Judaism lasting for over 3,500 years and Christianity lasting for 2,000 years? You sure don't have much faith in the human race.

Correct. People are stupid, worthless beings that look for hope in all the wrong places.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

Why does God always want to test people?

probably moreso to benefit us

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

Belief in extraterrestrial beings is irrelevant when you look at the odds of ever coming in contact with one. It's so ridiculously small it's not even worth thinking about or wondering about it for 1 second. Forgot the stats on it, but you're better off trying to make your Boss amp sound like an Brax through intense prayer. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

i agree

 

[BoomBoomBoy 10+ year member]

Correct. People are stupid, worthless beings that look for hope in all the wrong places.

You're entitled to your own opinion. Do you fall into that category of people you just commented about or are you excluded? Let me guess your answer. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

Belief in extraterrestrial beings is irrelevant when you look at the odds of ever coming in contact with one. It's so ridiculously small it's not even worth thinking about or wondering about it for 1 second. Forgot the stats on it, but you're better off trying to make your Boss amp sound like an Brax through intense prayer. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

Same thing can be said about god.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

I'm guessing the Catholic church was never corrupt and forced the spread of their religion for monetary gain either, or none of these other crazy ideas...

yes they did, i read it in 'philosophy for beginners'

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

You're entitled to your own opinion. Do you fall into that category of people you just commented about or are you excluded? Let me guess your answer. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

I acknowledge myself as a worthless human being. I still feel I am smarter than most other people since I realize this, but relatively, it's not saying much, it means nothing in the end, and it's nothing I'm extremely proud of.

 

[BoomBoomBoy 10+ year member]

I acknowledge myself as a worthless human being. I still feel I am smarter than most other people since I realize this, but relatively, it's not saying much, it means nothing in the end, and it's nothing I'm extremely proud of.

I'll pray for you when I hit my knees tonight. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[MikeofTulsa Moderator]

he's all powerful, how could you not follow his plan? He can control us to do what he wants us to if he's all powerful right?

yes, he could. but then we wouldnt have free will.