Question about loudness

[jpexpc 10+ year member]

I haven't messed with CA since I was in high school. I've had multiple systems in multiple vehicles. They were always of the "mutt" variety and I just worked with what I had.

My loudest stereo was in my 240sx hatchback running 2 crappy Pioneer 12's in a prefab ported enclosure. I never got any serious meter time but if my memory serves me correctly I was doing around 145db's (no clue which mic) listening to Outkast's Rosa Parks. This compared to my current setup felt more bassy and forced you to breath out of your mouth but the bass was kind of a high pitch compared to my current 35 hz tuned setup.

Here's my question:

My old stereo was doing around 145 db's and "hit" really hard but wasn't too hard on my ears. My new stereo plays much lower bass and doesn't necessarily close my nose (only example I can think of) but makes my ears feel like they are going to bleed. I feel like I have an ear infection and I've turned it up maybe 10 times for a max of 10 seconds each. Is the lower bass tones the "painfully loud" difference or could this mean I'm louder?

I know this is pretty general but I'm assuming I'm nowhere near 145 db's with my current setup but I can hardly bring myself to turning it up because it's so loud. I'm still running off my factory HU using a LOC. My amp is a 1606D running off an inline 80A fuse that I haven't popped yet because I have my gains set so low. I'm considering stopping any more upgrades because it's almost too much bass.

Any ideas? Could I be louder or will dropping my peak frequency make a difference in loudness perception.

I have no idea how to put this in cliff notes and be able to make my rant understandable.

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[jbizzle 5,000+ posts]

I see a problem here.. You're saying its too loud? Its never to loud, I call bullshit.

 

[SHOnOFF 10+ year member]

first off you were NOT doing "145's" with two crappy pio 12's in a pre-fab. read more around here and then come back when you know what your talkin about mang

 

[jpexpc 10+ year member]

I see a problem here.. You're saying its too loud? Its never to loud, I call bullshit.

LOL, I know and feel dumb for saying it.

 

[jpexpc 10+ year member]

first off you were NOT doing "145's" with two crappy pio 12's in a pre-fab. read more around here and then come back when you know what your talkin about mang

It was a 145 but no clue which meter. Get over the numbers. We're not comparing c**k sizes here. It's a frequency question not a "who's is bigger" question.

 

[Supergumby5000 5,000+ posts]

first off you were NOT doing "145's" with two crappy pio 12's in a pre-fab. read more around here and then come back when you know what your talkin about mang

before your a d*ck, read what he wrote

to the OP, i am guessing you did not use a termlab DB meter? there have been some updates to metering, and a termlab is the basis for metering nowadays. Simply put, the 145db you metered back then is probably not the 145db you would read on a termlab today.

as for hurting your ears, tuning frequency plays a huge role. You can have a ported box peaking at 45hz and have it tear your ears apart, or you can have a car that peaks at 30hz, but just feels retarded loud. There is a huge difference

 

[jpexpc 10+ year member]

before your a d*ck, read what he wrote
to the OP, i am guessing you did not use a termlab DB meter? there have been some updates to metering, and a termlab is the basis for metering nowadays. Simply put, the 145db you metered back then is probably not the 145db you would read on a termlab today.

as for hurting your ears, tuning frequency plays a huge role. You can have a ported box peaking at 45hz and have it tear your ears apart, or you can have a car that peaks at 30hz, but just feels retarded loud. There is a huge difference

Thank you. This is a valid response to my question.

 

[TC2k15x2 10+ year member]

Teach me how to make my ears bleed with 1600 watts please.

 

[Supergumby5000 5,000+ posts]

Teach me how to make my ears bleed with 1600 watts please.

lol at the people trying to flame the OP for using a form of speech, quit trying to look intelligent, you're just making yourself look like a d*ckriding fool.

 

[jpexpc 10+ year member]

Teach me how to make my ears bleed with 1600 watts please.

If you had read my thread you could have come up with a much better smart-@ss comment. Considering I haven't popped my 80A inline fuse I'm probably more around the 800 watts zone, maybe less. Once again, it's not about how loud I believe my stereo is. The question is based on my perception of loudness do to a difference in peak frequency. Although there could be a few, I would guess that anyone on this forum that has ever thrown up some respectable numbers could care less what I "think" I'm pushing and just give me a legitimate answer. I could honestly care less. If I'm pushing 135 db's at 35 hz and it's this f**king loud I really don't care to get any louder. I'm sorry you find that offensive.

 

[Sarthos 10+ year member]

If you wanna make your ears bleed with 1600 watts get 8 pairs of oversized tweeters with 100 RMS watts per tweeter.

 

[GMCJimmyslt2000 10+ year member]

We need some more info.

Box specs, what amp and subs?

 

[snb778 5,000+ posts]

its harder to get your ears to hurt at a lower frequency because we don't "hear" that low as well as a higher frequency. as far as I know, 150db@50hz will hurt more than 150db@30hz, but im not 100% sure on that

 

[jpexpc 10+ year member]

its harder to get your ears to hurt at a lower frequency because we don't "hear" that low as well as a higher frequency. as far as I know, 150db@50hz will hurt more than 150db@30hz, but im not 100% sure on that

Wow. Another legitimate response! Thank you for your input.

 

[1rockford1 5,000+ posts]

I haven't messed with CA since I was in high school. I've had multiple systems in multiple vehicles. They were always of the "mutt" variety and I just worked with what I had.
My loudest stereo was in my 240sx hatchback running 2 crappy Pioneer 12's in a prefab ported enclosure. I never got any serious meter time but if my memory serves me correctly I was doing around 145db's (no clue which mic) listening to Outkast's Rosa Parks. This compared to my current setup felt more bassy and forced you to breath out of your mouth but the bass was kind of a high pitch compared to my current 35 hz tuned setup.

Here's my question:

My old stereo was doing around 145 db's and "hit" really hard but wasn't too hard on my ears. My new stereo plays much lower bass and doesn't necessarily close my nose (only example I can think of) but makes my ears feel like they are going to bleed. I feel like I have an ear infection and I've turned it up maybe 10 times for a max of 10 seconds each. Is the lower bass tones the "painfully loud" difference or could this mean I'm louder?

I know this is pretty general but I'm assuming I'm nowhere near 145 db's with my current setup but I can hardly bring myself to turning it up because it's so loud. I'm still running off my factory HU using a LOC. My amp is a 1606D running off an inline 80A fuse that I haven't popped yet because I have my gains set so low. I'm considering stopping any more upgrades because it's almost too much bass.

Any ideas? Could I be louder or will dropping my peak frequency make a difference in loudness perception.

I have no idea how to put this in cliff notes and be able to make my rant understandable.

huh, good luck with all that BS