Punch amps = crap!!!???

[Jbarbier 10+ year member]

plus its stable and i like it alot, lol

 

[jonB 10+ year member]

Dont worry we all make mistakse. I too embarrasingly enough was a fosgate owner many years ago, dont feel too shamed.

 

[defiance 10+ year member]

just make sure you get the k.14, not the .44 - that way you can run it bridged 4ohm and get more power //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[packerfan 10+ year member]

fosgate amps are garbage, PERIOD.

STFU NOOBIE.....

 

[somekook 10+ year member]

actually weather you get a single four ohm or dual four ohm you can get the same power to the sub with that amp

 

[defiance 10+ year member]

Really? Not familiar with that amp, I guess...

 

[paikiah 5,000+ posts]

I've been runnig my 8 year old RF amps to this day, and still sounds awesome.

Another thing, just causethere isn't a built-in fuse, doesn't mean it's crap. SO many top notch amps have no fuse built-in.

 

[jonB 10+ year member]

The fact that fosgate amps are garbage has nothing to do with a lack of fuses. These amps produce lots of distortion and sound like shit if you've heard what a decent amp sounds like you'd know why. Fosgate amps are really poorly built and are a terrible product.

 

[defiance 10+ year member]

The fact that fosgate amps are garbage has nothing to do with a lack of fuses. These amps produce lots of distortion and sound like shit if you've heard what a decent amp sounds like you'd know why. Fosgate amps are really poorly built and are a terrible product.

That statement is loaded with misinformation. Once you get past a certain point, (a point which fosgates are well beyond) amps are amps. The only differences are features and power. The worst of any basically 'good' amplifiers has a distortion level of well below .1%, which no human could ever discern. If you heard the distortion in a system with a fosgate amp, you either heard distortion coming from another component of the system, from an improper system, or from your imagination.

As far as what an amp is "supposed to sound like", it's not. Its supposed to be completely transparent.

 

[jonB 10+ year member]

Actually i've owned fosgate amps in the past and I have been in car audio over 20 years, I think i am qualified to make an accurate judgement on these amps. Fosgate amps are typical among people new to car audio as they quite frankly are a well-marketed product. You can find these amps virtually at any best buy or other large consumer retail outlet. If you've seen the insides of these amps the circuitry is substandard, the transformers are poorly designed, and very small caps for amps claiming such power. Fosgate amps are also known to run VERY hot (hotter than most amps) and are known in the Audiophile circles (just do a search on any car audio forum with established audiophiles) as being distortion boxes. I am thankful for the day my fosgate amps were stolen many years ago as had it not been for that I probably would not know what a real amp sounds like to this day. Fosgate used to be a very good product in the very early 90s but the stuff they are turning out these days is inferior and just very very shitty sounding particularily their subs. You know when a manufacturer is desperate when they have to stamp "FAST AND FURIOUS" to their product wake up people!!

ps. It's typical for people to support a product at any-means-necessary when they OWN the product. This way they dont feel like fools for purchasing it in the first place. The only people defending fosgate products are people new to car audio or ones that have not heard any other amps so they have to justify to themselves that they spent money on a crappy amp. You can argue all you like but simply put, you're arguing off emotion, not logic. You mention fosgate amps to anyone who knows something about car audio and it should be an embarrasement. These amps are shitboxes and if you are stuck with one, well...keep trying to convince yourself that its decent. It would be analagous to telling someone that you payed good money for some radioshack pc speakers because the salesguy said they were good. Good job!!!! YOU RULE!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[defiance 10+ year member]

Your qualifications do not contradict the fallacy of your statements; the amps' THD is less than .1%. No offense intended, but I've know idiots who have been in their field for far more than 20 years; that doesn't make them smarter, just dumb longer. If you *MUST* qualify yourself to make a statement, use achievement, not time. Take, for example, two USACi world finals qualifications. I could care less what "Audiophiles" think, it's still wrong. Distortion levels in 99% of the amplifiers produced today - including fosgate - are so far beyond audible limits that your suggestion of being able to discern the distortion is nothing more than silliness.

Incidentally, I do not, nor have I ever owned a Fosgate piece of equipment. I feel that they are overmarketed and overpriced. The difference between you and I is, quite simply, I choose not to buy a product for informed and understood reasons, and I do not choose to insult you, however inflammatory you attempt to be.

 

[jonB 10+ year member]

Whatever you have to keep telling yourself

 

[slipknot87420 10+ year member]

So you've been in the "field" ever since you were born huh? oh shit i missed that "over 20 years" that's a lil hard to do with you being 20 yr's old and all//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[jonB 10+ year member]

dayton dvc 15.1mm one way xmax 15"

pioneer 4"x6"in the dash

RF 500a2

Dont take users profiles so literally. lol

"theres a sucker born every minute...congratulations, you're another stat!"

 

[defiance 10+ year member]

You think that's funny? Try this! He's so well educated on the weaknesses of the fosgate amp, that he was asking this very board for it's opinion on his considered purchase of JUST SUCH AN AMP less than 2 months ago!

http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35266