Problems with my setup

[generalGOTCHA 10+ year member]

K here is what I am running

Orion HCCA 250 Digital Reference

2 10" Orion P series subwoofers.

Ok, I have a cheap battery lol.. from autozone. 1000 cold cranking amps, and shows 110amp reserve .. Is this horrible ???

Anyways.. from the battery I am running duel 5 guage wires.. Meaning I stuck two 5 guage power wires (best you can get at wal-mart) and wired them together trying to evade my little problem of eating up 100amp fuses.

Ok so I replace the fuse, and go bumping for a while.. setting the gain on my amp all the way down, and turning up all the bass options on my Pioneer DEH 7800MP color screen to louden the bass.

Note: I was to lazy to run a remote wire from my head unit to the amplifier lol. So I hardwired the remote to my power wire, and when I turn my vehicle off I just pull the fuse to not drain my battery.

So here is what I want to achieve !!!

I want to be able to turn the gain allllll the way up on my amplifier without it getting hot as hell @ 1 ohm btw. And play it all day without it melting the fuses up. IS THIS POSSIBLE ????

I can only get a 1 ohm or 4 ohm option from my DVC 10" subs.

They both will take easly 500Wrms.

Specs for this amp is 800Wrms @ 12volts.

So is it draining my battery ? then resulting in drawing from the alternator, and then heating up the powerwires weekest point being the in line fuse ???

I reallllllly am getting annoyed at this problem, and am willing to do whatever it takes, but want some technical perspectives on why this is happening.

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[cotjones 10+ year member]

K here is what I am running
Orion HCCA 250 Digital Reference

2 10" Orion P series subwoofers.

Ok, I have a cheap battery lol.. from autozone. 1000 cold cranking amps, and shows 110amp reserve .. Is this horrible ???

Anyways.. from the battery I am running duel 5 guage wires.. Meaning I stuck two 5 guage power wires (best you can get at wal-mart) and wired them together trying to evade my little problem of eating up 100amp fuses.

Ok so I replace the fuse, and go bumping for a while.. setting the gain on my amp all the way down, and turning up all the bass options on my Pioneer DEH 7800MP color screen to louden the bass.

Note: I was to lazy to run a remote wire from my head unit to the amplifier lol. So I hardwired the remote to my power wire, and when I turn my vehicle off I just pull the fuse to not drain my battery.

So here is what I want to achieve !!!

I want to be able to turn the gain allllll the way up on my amplifier without it getting hot as hell @ 1 ohm btw. And play it all day without it melting the fuses up. IS THIS POSSIBLE ????

I can only get a 1 ohm or 4 ohm option from my DVC 10" subs.

They both will take easly 500Wrms.

Specs for this amp is 800Wrms @ 12volts.

So is it draining my battery ? then resulting in drawing from the alternator, and then heating up the powerwires weekest point being the in line fuse ???

I reallllllly am getting annoyed at this problem, and am willing to do whatever it takes, but want some technical perspectives on why this is happening.

some guys on here will know better but i tried to do the same thing with 2 8awg wires instead of 1 4... for some reason it heated up bad with the 8's but doesn't have much of a problem anymore... 4 is the biggest my amp will take by the way...

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

K here is what I am running
Orion HCCA 250 Digital Reference

2 10" Orion P series subwoofers.

Ok, I have a cheap battery lol.. from autozone. 1000 cold cranking amps, and shows 110amp reserve .. Is this horrible ???

Anyways.. from the battery I am running duel 5 guage wires.. Meaning I stuck two 5 guage power wires (best you can get at wal-mart) and wired them together trying to evade my little problem of eating up 100amp fuses.

Ok so I replace the fuse, and go bumping for a while.. setting the gain on my amp all the way down, and turning up all the bass options on my Pioneer DEH 7800MP color screen to louden the bass.

Note: I was to lazy to run a remote wire from my head unit to the amplifier lol. So I hardwired the remote to my power wire, and when I turn my vehicle off I just pull the fuse to not drain my battery.

So here is what I want to achieve !!!

I want to be able to turn the gain allllll the way up on my amplifier without it getting hot as hell @ 1 ohm btw. And play it all day without it melting the fuses up. IS THIS POSSIBLE ????

I can only get a 1 ohm or 4 ohm option from my DVC 10" subs.

They both will take easly 500Wrms.

Specs for this amp is 800Wrms @ 12volts.

So is it draining my battery ? then resulting in drawing from the alternator, and then heating up the powerwires weekest point being the in line fuse ???

I reallllllly am getting annoyed at this problem, and am willing to do whatever it takes, but want some technical perspectives on why this is happening.

kinda sounds like you have your input voltage too high, maby try turning the bass options down and the gains up... and take a little volume off of the sub channel... how are your inputs to the amp done? from the sub output on your HU?

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

kinda sounds like you have your input voltage too high, maby try turning the bass options down and the gains up... and take a little volume off of the sub channel... how are your inputs to the amp done? from the sub output on your HU?

gain is not a volume knob.. your amp might be giving eveything it has with the gains set all the way down if your input voltage is high

 

[tEh koRnDog 5,000+ posts]

i advise not seeking cotjones's advice or words of wisdom

for he talks outta his pooper

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

i advise not seeking cotjones's advice or words of wisdom
for he talks outta his pooper

i advise advising him yourself if you see a problem with my advise

 

[dyabolical 10+ year member]

I there any real reason why cotjones posted 3 times in a row in the same thread? I mean **** dude...

 

[tEh koRnDog 5,000+ posts]

i advise advising him yourself if you see a problem with my advise

what do you call my post dumbass?

 

[generalGOTCHA 10+ year member]

An Orion HCCA 250 has three simple options lol.

two buttons

One a mono button

the other a Bass Boost button.

then you have the gain knob. Which is currently turned to the lowest it can possibly go. I believe my color screen Pioneer DEH7800MP puts out an RCA voltage of 6volts, a pretty high rca voltage.

I do have the Bass Boost button pressed in ! Maybe I should unpress it. Yess the HU has a dedicated subwoofer output which is ran directly to the amplifier.

an Orion amplifier of this model, has power leads connected to the board. You can remove them and put new ones in at any time, and this model uses 8 guage for both power and ground. So I have the duel 5guage wires I combined ran straight to the amplifiers hot.

It takes a long time before it melts my 100amp fuse, but when Im slamming the system it will finally at one point melt the fuse. I love how it makes my steering column bounce, and my shifters 'BOUNCE' .. never had a system that moved so much things in my vehicle not to mention the subs are 9 feet from my front VAN seats and it does this !

I just want to be able to do this all the time without melting fuses, and am ready to upgrade to a 270$ 2400amp reserve battery that someone PM'd me about here on the forum to solve this problem if this is the problem. I may also use my dremel to cut fan holes and mount PC fans one blowing in, and one ******* out to keep heating down, but really want to avoid doing so because its in almost brand new condition cosmetically.

 

[generalGOTCHA 10+ year member]

i advise not seeking cotjones's advice or words of wisdom
for he talks outta his pooper

Please give your advice then sir ! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

I there any real reason why cotjones posted 3 times in a row in the same thread? I mean **** dude...

cause i said 3 different things and this thread was open awhile and noone else was posting.... why? does it matter?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif have i done something wrong?

 

[generalGOTCHA 10+ year member]

cause i said 3 different things and this thread was open awhile and noone else was posting.... why? does it matter?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif have i done something wrong?

Ummm .. You were helping with your advice, and someone disagreed with you who has not yet posted a technical perspective of what they think could be the solution. So... untill said otherwise, you have been the most helpfull in that you are trying !

 

[jeremiah 10+ year member]

what about the MAW-15? what's up with that?

 

[jeremiah 10+ year member]

K here is what I am running
Orion HCCA 250 Digital Reference

2 10" Orion P series subwoofers.

Ok, I have a cheap battery lol.. from autozone. 1000 cold cranking amps, and shows 110amp reserve .. Is this horrible ???

Anyways.. from the battery I am running duel 5 guage wires.. Meaning I stuck two 5 guage power wires (best you can get at wal-mart) and wired them together trying to evade my little problem of eating up 100amp fuses.

Ok so I replace the fuse, and go bumping for a while.. setting the gain on my amp all the way down, and turning up all the bass options on my Pioneer DEH 7800MP color screen to louden the bass.

Note: I was to lazy to run a remote wire from my head unit to the amplifier lol. So I hardwired the remote to my power wire, and when I turn my vehicle off I just pull the fuse to not drain my battery.

So here is what I want to achieve !!!

I want to be able to turn the gain allllll the way up on my amplifier without it getting hot as hell @ 1 ohm btw. And play it all day without it melting the fuses up. IS THIS POSSIBLE ????

I can only get a 1 ohm or 4 ohm option from my DVC 10" subs.

They both will take easly 500Wrms.

Specs for this amp is 800Wrms @ 12volts.

So is it draining my battery ? then resulting in drawing from the alternator, and then heating up the powerwires weekest point being the in line fuse ???

I reallllllly am getting annoyed at this problem, and am willing to do whatever it takes, but want some technical perspectives on why this is happening.

that is a NO NO

 

[Diplexers 10+ year member]

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=164826