Power Surge Batteries

[djman37 5,000+ posts]

then get me on the team and ship me my batteries.

 

[MakeshiftAudio 10+ year member]

I don't quite understand where people get "Better acid" and "Bigger cells."

It doesn't make sense, tell me where people are getting these statements.

 

[bigbud747 10+ year member]

then get me on the team and ship me my batteries.

Um... Not sure what your meaning by on the team.. The owner (guy i talked to) said that they mainly go through dealers to distribute their product, but an individual can get one through them..

And to makeshiftaudio, what numbers are you talking about? If you get on their website it's got a number to call the place, and if you actually decide you want to talk on the phone, they will actually give you the information on the batteries.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 

[MakeshiftAudio 10+ year member]

I'll give them a ring some time later today, I'm currently busy, but I'm honestly curious. I'll relay info here. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[djman37 5,000+ posts]

Um... Not sure what your meaning by on the team.. The owner (guy i talked to) said that they mainly go through dealers to distribute their product, but an individual can get one through them..
And to makeshiftaudio, what numbers are you talking about? If you get on their website it's got a number to call the place, and if you actually decide you want to talk on the phone, they will actually give you the information on the batteries.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

Marketing. Having competitors run, and win, with their batteries builds their name. Real cars putting up real numbers.

 

[bigbud747 10+ year member]

Marketing. Having competitors run, and win, with their batteries builds their name. Real cars putting up real numbers.

Ok.. Got it.. Haha.. I'm thinking about getting one of these if I can scrape up the money.. Seems solid..

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

I believe the 3000 only weighs 160+-

the 1250 is a group 31 sized battery the same as a hc2400. If they are saying their battery has 30% bigger plates you would have to be using the same sized battery otherwise one could use the argument that the ps 250 has smaller plates than a group 31 sized agm cell.

 

[Annnarbor84 5,000+ posts]

Um... Not sure what your meaning by on the team.. The owner (guy i talked to) said that they mainly go through dealers to distribute their product, but an individual can get one through them..
And to makeshiftaudio, what numbers are you talking about? If you get on their website it's got a number to call the place, and if you actually decide you want to talk on the phone, they will actually give you the information on the batteries.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

Batteries ship out of Florida, there are a few people involved with this company. Also they are going to be coming out with subs and amps, they already have some neos ready as well:crazy:

 

[audioarsonal 10+ year member]

What is the IR in milliOhm's?

 

[S.B.C. 10+ year member]

I don't quite understand where people get "Better acid" and "Bigger cells."
It doesn't make sense, tell me where people are getting these statements.

More POTENT acids being used- read below

not rocket science kids

Do you mean Internal Resistance? Or am I confusing the terminology with something else? To me it could mean Impulse Response, Insulation Resistance....etc.
Also, please explain to me how you are supposed to have more plate, and larger cells, while having the same volume. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif This is not saying you're wrong, but I must be missing something.

Yes internal resistance

Bigger cells doesnt mean more of them, just means cells in it are bigger-

ex- 10 little cells in batt X would be 3 big cells in battery Y. Still in same case

You can have a 350 motor- but when u bore it out it increaes displacement- same w batts

What is the IR in milliOhm's?

I supplied the # u gotta supply the call nukka

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

All I give a shit about is the short circuit current.

 

[MakeshiftAudio 10+ year member]

More POTENT acids being used- read below
not rocket science kids

Yes internal resistance

Bigger cells doesnt mean more of them, just means cells in it are bigger-

ex- 10 little cells in batt X would be 3 big cells in battery Y. Still in same case

You can have a 350 motor- but when u bore it out it increaes displacement- same w batts

I supplied the # u gotta supply the call nukka

I don't quite understand where people get "Better acid" and "Bigger cells."

It doesn't make sense, tell me where people are getting these statements.

Do you mean Internal Resistance? Or am I confusing the terminology with something else? To me it could mean Impulse Response, Insulation Resistance....etc.

Also, please explain to me how you are supposed to have more plate, and larger cells, while having the same volume. This is not saying you're wrong, but I must be missing something.

Did you not read my posts?

If you knew how to read and comprehend English, I would not have to put in bullet to bullet format.

In a previous post, it was specified that the cases were the same. Okay. Understand? Now that you've got that down, understanding that you have a given volume, how are the cells 30% bigger?

Now. For the acid thing. Please, tell me how exactly you're supposed to get more potent acid. You cannot have more than once acid in this case, since it is a sulfuric acid based cell. Correct me if I am wrong. Also, the "potency"(Correct term would be the concentration, pure H2SO4 having a specific gravity of 1.8-1.85 I think) can only be so high of a concentration to reach the peak output(electron transfer) through the electrolysis reaction.

It's not rocket science. It's electrolysis.

Also, since we're on the topic of electrolysis, each cell has it's own respective voltage, given by the electrolysis reaction. You series these cells and the load is distributed equally. For example, charged floating cells are usually 2.105V (optimal discharge point for the electron transfer reaction), if you have 10 (Like in your example) you will have a 21.05V cell. *Gasp* we can add. Or if we have 3 (like in your example) you will have 6.315V. You could also put them in series and parallel to get the required voltage and have enough of a current discharge required, and while you parallel them, the resistance lowers as well. Okay? In a standard 12V lead acid battery there are 6 cells. I did not say more of them if you read my posts.

On top of that, in your very first post, you said it has an IR of >2%. WTF. I did not know ohms could be measured in percentage of a value not given. I must of missed that in the last IEEE meeting.

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[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

30% bigger would weigh more not less unless the plates do not contain lead unless there is more empty space inside the case.

 

[S.B.C. 10+ year member]

Did you not read my posts?
If you knew how to read and comprehend English, I would not have to put in bullet to bullet format.

In a previous post, it was specified that the cases were the same. Okay. Understand? Now that you've got that down, understanding that you have a given volume, how are the cells 30% bigger?

Now. For the acid thing. Please, tell me how exactly you're supposed to get more potent acid. You cannot have more than once acid in this case, since it is a sulfuric acid based cell. Correct me if I am wrong. Also, the "potency"(Correct term would be the concentration, pure H2SO4 having a specific gravity of 1.8-1.85 I think) can only be so high of a concentration to reach the peak output(electron transfer) through the electrolysis reaction.

It's not rocket science. It's electrolysis.

Also, since we're on the topic of electrolysis, each cell has it's own respective voltage, given by the electrolysis reaction. You series these cells and the load is distributed equally. For example, charged floating cells are usually 2.105V (optimal discharge point for the electron transfer reaction), if you have 10 (Like in your example) you will have a 21.05V cell. *Gasp* we can add. Or if we have 3 (like in your example) you will have 6.315V. You could also put them in series and parallel to get the required voltage and have enough of a current discharge required, and while you parallel them, the resistance lowers as well. Okay? In a standard 12V lead acid battery there are 6 cells. I did not say more of them if you read my posts.

On top of that, in your very first post, you said it has an IR of >2%. WTF. I did not know ohms could be measured in percentage of a value not given. I must of missed that in the last IEEE meeting.

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Wow hunny, is the tampon in sideways?

sorry was supposed to be ohms big guy

 

[Parker G 10+ year member]

wow... like pulling teeth.