I hate it here were I'm from we don't have all the different audio shops yall have in cali so ik not very familiar with a lot of car audio yall are using on here so forgive if I act alil dumbfounded about it all we have as far as audio shop is one and it is 70 miles away most of every one around here uses well what they can get which is sony , pioneer, Boston, jl audio, mtx ,kicker and soundstream nothing else unless you order offline so I don't know nothing about ct sounds , dc, sundown , re, or any of those brands it sux here