Pissed off friend. should i care?

[ntense702 10+ year member]

look here man, have some real talk with this guy, try and kick down some knowledge to him, and part ways, when the years pass by and you prosper and he descends (if he continues this bullsh!t) he'll realize what you were trying to say, most likely this guy is hopeless and is determined to do what he wants to do, but you know what at least you know you tried, your best bet is to get an old dope fiend to talk to him and tell him his life story, but that probably won't even work, experience is the best teacher, and bad experiences is what this f

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

nah man u keep doin your thing, lots of ppl dont like to face reality, thats why they react weirdly, sometimes in anger which is how i think ur friend is reacting. but you def the good friend here. and do you really think ur being a jerk? please, unless someone else is doing the same thing for him that ur doing, ur the only tru friend this guy has...

apparently, he doesnt see this.

Its like in the movies, when there is 2 friends, and friend 1 has a chick, and friend 2 sees the chick cheating on his bud, friend 1 doesnt accept it,and thinks his friend is lying and jealous..

people cant deal with it. and he couldnt deal with what i had to say.

 

[djjdnap 10+ year member]

just whoop his ***, and tell him its for his own good.

lmao

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

Last night i got pissed at my good friend because he wants to do acid, and his only real reason is that like, he wants to see what artists saw and understand shit or something. Basically no real reason except for its fun, and it want to.
I also yelled at him and said that he doesnt pay for shit, that he couldnt take care of himself, and that his parents give him everything, and that he needs people to hold him accountable because he would be nowhere without it.

Now this kid has always been an outcast, and he is obssessed w/ psychological drugs and think because he has read on the internet, and done 3.9 grams of SHITTY *** shrooms, that he knows it all.

Also, his parents bought him his car, and have put helllla money into. They also got him another car becaus the first broke down. Technically,the 2nd car is his dads..but its "his" car. He doesnt pay for his insurance, and doesnt pay for shit. Hes barely making it into college because he was a lazy fuk and didnt do an english essay,which he has no good reason for not doing.

Basically, I told him he doesnt know shit about drugs, needs to mature and realize doing acid and shrooms is stupid and if he needs them he is pathetic. That his parents pay for all his shit and he wouldn't be able to sustain himself w/out them.

I dont feel bad, should I?

Honestly,I really feel that way about drugs, and he really wants to do them for no reason...hes 18 and BARELY going to college(chico) and he doesnt realize mom and dad arent gonna be there when he fuks up...he doesnt pay for anything himself, and has had a pretty good life(besides being a kinda loser in JH and begining of HS).

just wonderin your thoughts, thats all.

Well you did better than saying nothing. The way I view drugs is if I try them I'm going to like them and I'd rather not mess up my life to chase after my next high. I have other more healthy things to spend and save my money for, like a house.

 

[blackgeltabs 5,000+ posts]

Because you may have "heard" of 20 cid stories were people are brain dead and fried out, you have probably meet hundreds of others that have done it without that result.

Lets face it how many people do you actually know that are brain dead from it? Ive done cid well over 20 times, im not ashamed, its givin me a great outlook on life and a great way to think outside of the box. If your scared of it dont try it, you will be living the next 10 hours of your life in pure hell. If your a thinker and have a great mental capactiy you have nothing to fear, if your reclusive and **** at life dont do it. Its not for everyone, example, low self esteem people will get torn apart on this drug. You become very analytical of everything including yourself and if you dont love yourself your mind will focus on that. If your strong willed its all good, and just like Dr. Dennis Leary, I suggest that everyone tries it once in their lives, if you think your capable.

Oh BTW im not a piece of shit or a loser who has done nothing with myself. Im also not any of those other stereotypes that everyone has placed on people who do drugs, or acid.

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

Because you may have "heard" of 20 cid stories were people are brain dead and fried out, you have probably meet hundreds of others that have done it without that result.
Lets face it how many people do you actually know that are brain dead from it? Ive done cid well over 20 times, im not ashamed, its givin me a great outlook on life and a great way to think outside of the box. If your scared of it dont try it, you will be living the next 10 hours of your life in pure hell. If your a thinker and have a great mental capactiy you have nothing to fear, if your reclusive and **** at life dont do it. Its not for everyone, example, low self esteem people will get torn apart on this drug. You become very analytical of everything including yourself and if you dont love yourself your mind will focus on that. If your strong willed its all good, and just like Dr. Dennis Leary, I suggest that everyone tries it once in their lives, if you think your capable.

Oh BTW im not a piece of shit or a loser who has done nothing with myself. Im also not any of those other stereotypes that everyone has placed on people who do drugs, or acid.

He is a thinker, and has shitty self esteem. A lot of his HS years, and previous years, hes been "not-so-cool". He doesn't seem to be that happy either. He has to take drugs to perk him and shit.

If he wasnt so mentally unstable, I wouldnt have gotten pissed at him, because I know he can handle it. The thing is, he is so nieve about how much he can actually take, that he doesnt realize how juvinielle his experiences are, and how mentally fuked up he is.

By what you just stated, it reaffirms what I have thought and learned from those who have done acid. He is everything you said that he shoudln't be.

Oh well...Ill try to get him to read this thread maybe...maybe by seeing how other people have more knowledge than him, and reading again about the shit i told him, itll finally click in his head...that he doesnt know everything, and needs to accept when others are right, regardless of how they present it.

 

[blackgeltabs 5,000+ posts]

Yes if hes having down days/week/month whatever dont let him do it. Also dont let him do it without having someone around who knows the drug well. Sometimes people have to be talked down. Dont let him in dark rooms, or public places. No horror movies, rap, or metal. Its all greatful dead, phish, Allman Bro's, jefferson airplane, hendrix, etc.. from start to finish.

If there is bad things in his life at the present time thats what hes going to focus on, even the most experienced tripper will have these problems. If you mind is strong enough you can learn to detur yourself from negitive thinking, if you cant then its the 10 hours of hell.

Cid is considerably more mental than shrooms are, its different everytime because the cid is different everytime. Sometimes its all mental with minimal visuals, sometimes is visual intensive with little mental, sometimes its both. Good cid will be a combination of both with the mental part not being as strong as the visual.

People going through serious emotional stages need to stay away till everything is smoothed over. If they wake up everyday and are happy with the way everything is going they should be fine.

 

[xns]

I can say that Im in a pretty emotionally ok spot considering that Im gonna be outta high school soon, and aside from tyler and me fighting right now that life is pretty much ok. Yeah I got some shit to straighten out but nothing that really deals with my emotions. As for being ungrateful, I take that as a direct insult. I am very grateful for everything and everybody in my life, and though it may not seem apparant to my friends I pay for my fair share of stuff. The reason that I dont pay for insurance on the car that I am currently driving is cause it would be very trying for an 18 year old to pay for two car's insurance plus the repairs for the first car, so my parents were kind enough to take on the responsibility of paying for the car that I currently drive (that doesnt include gas or oil or any repairs). As for getting pissed off at tyler for saying what he said, yeah so I dont take criticism very well, but people who can take what he said, the way he said it, gracefully, come few and far between. Tyler, you need to work on your timing, telling me stuff like this over an IM conversation was not the appropriate place and time. Face to face would have been better. And its true, I admit to it, I got some maturing to do as well as some stuff to straighten out in my life, but then again who doesnt? In repsonse to why I want to do acid, to tell you the truth I have no real goal. I'm not looking to acid to fufill my life, or make me a better person. The reason I picked acid was because I have expeirenced a few good shroom trips, and one bad one, and I wanted to see what acid is all about. I researched it and it seemed like a very safe drug, (that is one that you really cant OD on), as well as a very powerful drug, one that can cause you to experience things and thoughts that you may never experience in your life. This intrigued me, so I decided that I was going to try acid. Still haven't changed my mind and probably won't, so lets not try. Now as for the comment about the mushrooms being "shitty" I highly doubt that, they were regular street bought Cubenis, not pan subbs or some low content mushroom, they were plenty potent... trust me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif. I hardly want to continue on to different drugs after acid. If anything, I will minimize my usage to the occasional salvia trip after acid. BTW Geltabs, nice name //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Sincerely,

Wingless

 

[blackgeltabs 5,000+ posts]

In my mind acid is the most powerful drug there is. I had one bad trip and it was my second time, I was a senior in HS. I say all of this now as I have more grown up responsibilites I have to contend with which can bug you out an a bad trip. I did cid for my first time in 11th grade, definitly not as mature as I am today. Just be forwarened and definitly do it with someone else, tripping alone is only for the best of'em ). If you feel you are prepared for it then by all means do it, you know yourself better than I do. Just be in a happy enviornment, with lots of light, I stress lots of light, evil trips come in dark rooms. Evil as in evil visuals, bad trips can be a number of things.

 

[xns]

Yeah, my bad shroom trip was in a dark blacklight lit room with MC Escher's Eye staring at me the whole time, bad idea. I planned to have my friend sit me and watch me in a park for cid.

 

[blackgeltabs 5,000+ posts]

I did cid for my first time in the park. Goodtimes, I did a cart wheel right into a street light pole that I thought was about 4 feet to my left. I was also swatting at golden mosquitos that were flying around my legs that I swore were real, and when my friend told to kill one and give it to him...I couldnt.

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

I can say that Im in a pretty emotionally ok spot considering that Im gonna be outta high school soon, and aside from tyler and me fighting right now that life is pretty much ok. Yeah I got some shit to straighten out but nothing that really deals with my emotions. As for being ungrateful, I take that as a direct insult. I am very grateful for everything and everybody in my life, and though it may not seem apparant to my friends I pay for my fair share of stuff.Thats not what your dad OR your mom said to me.

The reason that I dont pay for insurance on the car that I am currently driving is cause it would be very trying for an 18 year old to pay for two car's insurance plus the repairs for the first car

I seem to do it fine...and I have less available work time than you. Hows two car insurances, gas for both, and a 4k bill on one of them? I still find myself able to pay for both. Its called money management. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

, so my parents were kind enough to take on the responsibility of paying for the car that I currently drive (that doesnt include gas or oil or any repairs). As for getting pissed off at tyler for saying what he said, yeah so I dont take criticism very well, but people who can take what he said, the way he said it, gracefully, come few and far between.

If you were a little more mature, you could have taken it better. I've said the same things to people I've known for a while, who were older, and they took it fine. They realized they had faults, and dealt with it. Like I said, it takes maturity //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

Tyler, you need to work on your timing, telling me stuff like this over an IM conversation was not the appropriate place and time. Face to face would have been better. And its true, I admit to it, I got some maturing to do as well as some stuff to straighten out in my life, but then again who doesnt?

In repsonse to why I want to do acid, to tell you the truth I have no real goal. I'm not looking to acid to fufill my life, or make me a better person. The reason I picked acid was because I have expeirenced a few good shroom trips, and one bad one, and I wanted to see what acid is all about. I researched it and it seemed like a very safe drug, (that is one that you really cant OD on), as well as a very powerful drug, one that can cause you to experience things and thoughts that you may never experience in your life. This intrigued me, so I decided that I was going to try acid. Still haven't changed my mind and probably won't, so lets not try. Now as for the comment about the mushrooms being "shitty" I highly doubt that, they were regular street bought Cubenis, not pan subbs or some low content mushroom, they were plenty potent... trust me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif.

Kyle had only a little more when he had brandon's shrooms, and got WAY more high off them. Also, for your reference of how good something is... you thought you were in the matrix off of weed... ALSO you took ONE CAP and said you had a body stone, and mild visuals or whatever... one cap.. I saw the size of the cap(kyle showed me one exactly like it) And from my time around 2lbs of shrooms, and playing with a scale, it could not have been anymore than .2. Hell, it wasnt even the size of a fingernail. So as for you thinking something is good... maybe you don't exactly have the best judgement/experience. If all you've had is shit, and you don't know any better, that doesnt make it good. You just think your shit is the best, when in reality it sucks. If you think your 1 cap trip was actually legit, then I take your validity of saying your mushies were good, with a grain of salt. You even said they were REGULAR shrooms. Hell dude, the shit you said off of your 3.9 and 2g trip, Ive had that stuff on weed man. I think you really need to think again if you think these mushies were that awesome. Your shrooms experience consists of 1 cap, and these mushies you bought off a hippie in Santa Cruz.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif You said they were regular shrooms, just like the ones stick was gonna buy...wtf you talking about they werent regular streetbought shrooms?

I hardly want to continue on to different drugs after acid. If anything, I will minimize my usage to the occasional salvia trip after acid. BTW Geltabs, nice name //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Sincerely,

Wingless

If you really want, we can get kyle to post here and validify your shrooms being shitty. Just accept it man, you had shit. Deal with it. Deal with it like the rest of the shit I said. You even admitted to being more fuked up off weed...good god don't try to even START to say the shit you had was anything good.

Kyle,stick,and brandon were all there. You had just taken 2g like a day and a half earlier, then dropped 3.9, and you said you had been more f'd up off of weed. And don't pull the "tolerance"excuse. Your tolerance for drugs is like solid air, its non-exsistant. I've had 2g's, then the NEXT NIGHT had 2g's, and still did the same shit to me as before...I only told you I did them days apart, so you wouldn't look like a complete and utter piece of shit in front of everyone...Your tolerance...you got fuked up off of ONE cap...you have no tolerance...

I think kyle just about shat himself when he saw you type good shrooms...

dear god don't even start.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

Yeah, my bad shroom trip was in a dark blacklight lit room with MC Escher's Eye staring at me the whole time, bad idea. I planned to have my friend sit me and watch me in a park for cid.

No offense, but that is the most pathetic excuse for a bad trip I've ever heard in my life.

I've had worse experiences on weed...even coke..

If you really consider looking at a poster a bad trip, you are a hopeless fool for thinking you can deal with a bad trip on acid.

A poster...If you actually had a bad trip......I don't even wanna begin.

For reference, do you want me to say my bad trip?So you can get an idea of what a mediocre trip sounds like?

As for bad trip... BULLSHIT.. you were telling Kyle and all them that you thought it was gross, and that it was cool.

Your full of shit for even implying you had a bad trip.

THIS IS YOUR IDEA OF A BAD TRIP..

Kyle is talking about you telling him your trip.

kyle: he was describing it to me like he said it was pretty f'n gross but he if he had a bad trip like i kinda did then it would be a lot worse than that. like he just saw the eye morphing into nasty shit, it didnt like egffect him mentally. he got up and went downstairs from what i rememver

me:now, would you compare his "bad trip" to what I told you last night? (I talked to him about my trip)

Kyle:to ur bad trip? **** no, it doesnt seem lie it even really compared to mine.klike i was trippin pretty hard mentaly as u witnissed

 

[Brock 5,000+ posts]

 

[xns]

wow... right when things start to get better, at least from my perspective, you go and post all this shit... wow