Pioneers new units......"quieter" than last years?

[zachzchw 5,000+ posts]

Put the 880 prs in, love it.

Thing is, it seems a good bit quieter than the 860 it replaced. The volume goes from 0-62, so it is a larger range than the 860.

I can barely hear it unless its up to about 25 or so. I would say that at 30 on the 880, the volume is comparable to about 15 on the 860.

Granted, only the stock rear speakers are in at this point, but they were all that was in with the 860 also.

Is it just due to the larger range of volume or what? Never had a problem like this before.

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[Hundreth 10+ year member]

The volume range on the 860 also goes till 62 IIRC.

Readjust your gains...

 

[zachzchw 5,000+ posts]

The volume range on the 860 also goes till 62 IIRC.
Readjust your gains...

I dont think the 860 goes to 62.......been a couple months though. I know that I usually maxed it out at about 30, I think it only went to 35 or 40.

No gains to readjust, the only thing hooked up at the moment is the set of stock rear door speakers.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

I dont think the 860 goes to 62.......been a couple months though. I know that I usually maxed it out at about 30, I think it only went to 35 or 40.
No gains to readjust, the only thing hooked up at the moment is the set of stock rear door speakers.

The 860 goes to 40.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Put the 880 prs in, love it.Thing is, it seems a good bit quieter than the 860 it replaced. The volume goes from 0-62, so it is a larger range than the 860.

I can barely hear it unless its up to about 25 or so. I would say that at 30 on the 880, the volume is comparable to about 15 on the 860.

Granted, only the stock rear speakers are in at this point, but they were all that was in with the 860 also.

Is it just due to the larger range of volume or what? Never had a problem like this before.

You have to remember that with the volume range being 0-62 instead of 0-40 that each notch in that vol range will be less gain than each of the 40 were on your 860. So basically 25 on your 880 is equivalent to about 15-20 on your 860.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[zachzchw 5,000+ posts]

You have to remember that with the volume range being 0-62 instead of 0-40 that each notch in that vol range will be less gain than each of the 40 were on your 860. So basically 25 on your 880 is equivalent to about 15-20 on your 860.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Thats about what I thought.......Ill play with it more tomorrow, see if I can get it figured out.

 

[Skip01 5,000+ posts]

Turn your SLA up.

+4

 

[Eldorado 5,000+ posts]

at least you dont have to crank it to 50/80 to get some decient volume from it

stupid eclipse !

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

Turn your SLA up.+4

I wouldn't suggest that as that would just mean his pre out would start clipping sooner. Not to mention that feature is for adjusting individual sources seperately.

 

[GreatGreen]

i have an 880prs and i know what you mean. i think i know why though.

see, the 880 can get just as loud as other head units, but its volume curve is logarithmic, not linear.

basically that means that at lower volume levels, the difference between volume adjustments will be more subtle, while at higher volume settings, the difference per volume increment will be a lot more apparent.

so like when you go from volume level 5 to 10, you'll probably only increase the volume a little bit. however, the difference between going from 30-35 will probably be quite significant. in other words, volume 10 will only be a little louder than volume 5, but volume 35 will be a lot louder than volume 30.

this logarithmic approach to volume adjustment is, in my opinion, very cool. basically it all boils down to a very high degree of control for the user. the logic behind this is that when you're at low volumes, you'll want more control over EXACTLY how loud you can play your music (so you won't run into that situation where volume x is too quiet but one volume number higher is too loud) because you'll likely be in a situation where the ignition is off or you're trying to have a conversation with someone over the music, but when you get into the 40's and 50's volume levels, Pioneer knew that you'd want your shit really loud anyway, so they figured why not make the volume increments further appart so that you could get to a really high volume quicker...

the later Pioneer units can get just as loud as any other system, it's just that they don't get that loud until the very highest volume settings.

 

[Kickerkitty 10+ year member]

i have an 880prs and i know what you mean. i think i know why though.
see, the 880 can get just as loud as other head units, but its volume curve is logarithmic, not linear.

basically that means that at lower volume levels, the difference between volume adjustments will be more subtle, while at higher volume settings, the difference per volume increment will be a lot more apparent.

so like when you go from volume level 5 to 10, you'll probably only increase the volume a little bit. however, the difference between going from 30-35 will probably be quite significant. in other words, volume 10 will only be a little louder than volume 5, but volume 35 will be a lot louder than volume 30.

this logarithmic approach to volume adjustment is, in my opinion, very cool. basically it all boils down to a very high degree of control for the user. the logic behind this is that when you're at low volumes, you'll want more control over EXACTLY how loud you can play your music (so you won't run into that situation where volume x is too quiet but one volume number higher is too loud) because you'll likely be in a situation where the ignition is off or you're trying to have a conversation with someone over the music, but when you get into the 40's and 50's volume levels, Pioneer knew that you'd want your shit really loud anyway, so they figured why not make the volume increments further appart so that you could get to a really high volume quicker...

the later Pioneer units can get just as loud as any other system, it's just that they don't get that loud until the very highest volume settings.

Yes, this seems to be the case with my 880PRS, I really like it because all though you have to get halfway through the dial for the LOUD stuff, you have a ton of adjustability. Getting stuck between a too loud and a too soft setting drives me crazy!!!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/furious.gif.fc81ca146dbff91fede3ed290dbc4f4c.gif

 

[jdrockafella 10+ year member]

Turn your SLA up.+4

DO NOT DO THIS....you have no idea how quickly this will cause damage to your speakers. Every time there was a complaint of bad/blown speakers, the first thing we would check was the sla!

 

[Skip01 5,000+ posts]

DO NOT DO THIS....you have no idea how quickly this will cause damage to your speakers. Every time there was a complaint of bad/blown speakers, the first thing we would check was the sla!

Really?

I had Pioneers for a while now and done this with both my radios.

Never blew a speaker or any distortion.

So leave it at 0?

 

[Decipha 10+ year member]

i hate the fan for the internal amp, i leave my internal amp off because of the noise of the fan.. anybody else have this problem? it's not loud just a very faint wind noise that drives me crazy

 

[Fast1one 10+ year member]

at least you dont have to crank it to 50/80 to get some decient volume from itstupid eclipse !

Older alpine FTW
My 9831 only goes to 35 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif