ltcharles
Junior Member
Okay so I searched and I have seen mixed feelings.
So I am wondering if it be worth switching to Sundown from Pioneer 2x8in subs to a 12 in.
I am happy with my dual 8 pioneers but I want a little more pounding feeling it in my chest though not sacrifice SQ. So I was told by local shop I can get as 12in shallow sub and a 10in shallow sub. Reason being is I want cargo room and stealth look. So the 10 pioneer would go in the Bmw X5 E53 stealth box. and the 12 would go where the spare tire is. Note the spare tire is still in there just inverted to allow room for box. Shop said both the 10 and 12 shallow pioneer have the same specs and frequencies so no risk of cancelation.
Pioneer TS-SW3002S4
Size 12"
Max. Music Power (Nominal) 1,500W (400W)
Frequency Response 20 Hz - 125 Hz
Sensitivity (IN CAR, INPUT: 1W) 93 dB
Impedance Single 4 Ohms
Mounting Depth 3-3/8"
Cut-Out Dimensions 11-3/4"
Recommended Enclosure 0.50 - 1.00 cu. ft.
Pioneer TS-SW2502S4
Size 10"
Max. Music Power (Nominal) 1,200 W (300 W)
Frequency Response 20 Hz to 125 Hz
Sensitivity (IN CAR, INPUT: 1W) 91 dB
Impedance Single 4 Ohms
Mounting Depth 3-1/8"
Cut-Out Dimensions 9-3/4"
Recommended Enclosure 0.35 - 0.70 cu. ft.
I asked the shops around my area Orange County, CA and they all say sundown ***** stick with Alpine or JL or worst kicker. I swear OC is monopolized by Kicker but I don't like kicker Though I read the forums and people speak highly about them and RE and DC.
Thing to note is that I need a sub under 128mm in depth roughly 5inches to fit. So that leaves me with Sundown SD-3 D2/D4 10's.
So my question is do these so justify the price tag of 199 for one 10 in such or for 200 get the pioneers?
Sundown SD-3 10inch I would get 2 for now just one since they are 2 bills.
Sundown SD-3 10 D2
RE (ohms) 7.00 ohms 3.72 ohms
FS (Hz) 25.5 Hz 25.7 Hz
Vas (L) 39.3 L 35.5 L
Qes 0.50 0.49
Qms 3.53 3.12
Qts 0.43 0.42
BL (NA) 18.57 NA 14.28 NA
Mms (Grams) 152 g 165 g
Cms (uM/N) 260 uM/N 230 uM/N
Sens (1w/1m) 83.1 dB 82.9 dB
They will go in a BMW x5 E53.
So I am wondering if it be worth switching to Sundown from Pioneer 2x8in subs to a 12 in.
I am happy with my dual 8 pioneers but I want a little more pounding feeling it in my chest though not sacrifice SQ. So I was told by local shop I can get as 12in shallow sub and a 10in shallow sub. Reason being is I want cargo room and stealth look. So the 10 pioneer would go in the Bmw X5 E53 stealth box. and the 12 would go where the spare tire is. Note the spare tire is still in there just inverted to allow room for box. Shop said both the 10 and 12 shallow pioneer have the same specs and frequencies so no risk of cancelation.
Pioneer TS-SW3002S4
Size 12"
Max. Music Power (Nominal) 1,500W (400W)
Frequency Response 20 Hz - 125 Hz
Sensitivity (IN CAR, INPUT: 1W) 93 dB
Impedance Single 4 Ohms
Mounting Depth 3-3/8"
Cut-Out Dimensions 11-3/4"
Recommended Enclosure 0.50 - 1.00 cu. ft.
Pioneer TS-SW2502S4
Size 10"
Max. Music Power (Nominal) 1,200 W (300 W)
Frequency Response 20 Hz to 125 Hz
Sensitivity (IN CAR, INPUT: 1W) 91 dB
Impedance Single 4 Ohms
Mounting Depth 3-1/8"
Cut-Out Dimensions 9-3/4"
Recommended Enclosure 0.35 - 0.70 cu. ft.
I asked the shops around my area Orange County, CA and they all say sundown ***** stick with Alpine or JL or worst kicker. I swear OC is monopolized by Kicker but I don't like kicker Though I read the forums and people speak highly about them and RE and DC.
Thing to note is that I need a sub under 128mm in depth roughly 5inches to fit. So that leaves me with Sundown SD-3 D2/D4 10's.
So my question is do these so justify the price tag of 199 for one 10 in such or for 200 get the pioneers?
Sundown SD-3 10inch I would get 2 for now just one since they are 2 bills.
Sundown SD-3 10 D2
RE (ohms) 7.00 ohms 3.72 ohms
FS (Hz) 25.5 Hz 25.7 Hz
Vas (L) 39.3 L 35.5 L
Qes 0.50 0.49
Qms 3.53 3.12
Qts 0.43 0.42
BL (NA) 18.57 NA 14.28 NA
Mms (Grams) 152 g 165 g
Cms (uM/N) 260 uM/N 230 uM/N
Sens (1w/1m) 83.1 dB 82.9 dB
They will go in a BMW x5 E53.