PC vs. Mac

[jjski78 10+ year member]

Thermaltake Soprano VB1430BWS Black Chassis: 0.8 mm SECC, Front Door: Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 430W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133156

Includes 430w PSU, 1 90mm fan, and 2 120mm fans. = 99.99

As far as I know all those parts except the OEM come with one year warranties.

But the thing is, parts of that caliber don't crap out very often //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

You're gonna put all that high end gear in that box with a no-name 430 watt power supply that came with the case?? Come on man! We're talking apples to apples, not apples to prunes!!

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

thats a nosiy and POS PSU

 

[jjski78 10+ year member]

Oh, and on top of the aforementioned Firewire ports, and the fact that XP home has networking issues...where's your built in wireless lan?? Where's your built in bluetooth??

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

Mind pointing me to where that Mac has firewire?

firewire is standard with Macs //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif also you are needing a soundcard as well

 

[jjski78 10+ year member]

And you're also missing anything comparable to iLife installed. And Microsoft Office, and iWork, does your PC have a foreign Language translator built in?? My iMac does, and so does the Mac Pro. So you probably have, I'll shoot from the hip here, about $500 in missing software too.

 

[jjski78 10+ year member]

Thermaltake is no-name? Haha, you really know NOTHING about computers, sorry man, just leave this thead //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
Notice how Apple doesn't even bother listing what kind of PSU is in the case or how many fans it has.

Heres a hint: manufactured computers use the worst possible components and don't list all the specs to keep the consumer in the dark.

No, thermaltake is a good brand. My point is a 430 watt PSU is not enough juice to run the system you built.

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

Cough, DC++ cough //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

an everyday person doesnt know that

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

430 is MORE than enough to run that. That system doesn't draw anywhere NEAR as much power a gaming PC.

it will when rendering, and putting a load on the processor(s)

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

also is that computer capable of upgradingto 4 video cardS and 16gb of ram?

 

[jjski78 10+ year member]

Oh, and are you gonna be available 24/7 365 days a year to answer calls about the system you just built crashing because A: You put XP Home on it, and B: You put a PSU in it that's too small?? J/K //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

But seriously here. Way back in my posts, I admitted anyone can BUILD a PC to be cheaper than a Mac, I'll never say better, because that's the way I am. But if you go to Dell, like the AVERAGE consumer, you're gonna pay a lot more for a vastly inferior system. And I'm not saying inferior as in equipment, I'm talking software, customer service, you know, the stuff that makes life easier.

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

Oh, and are you gonna be available 24/7 365 days a year to answer calls about the system you just built crashing because A: You put XP Home on it, and B: You put a PSU in it that's too small?? J/K //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
But seriously here. Way back in my posts, I admitted anyone can BUILD a PC to be cheaper than a Mac, I'll never say better, because that's the way I am. But if you go to Dell, like the AVERAGE consumer, you're gonna pay a lot more for a vastly inferior system. And I'm not saying inferior as in equipment, I'm talking software, customer service, you know, the stuff that makes life easier.

i believe thats what the debate was about

 

[jjski78 10+ year member]

Well, let's be completely honest here. The "AVERAGE" consumer won't be buying a Mac either as they probably don't even know Apple exist.

Well now, that's a completely false statement if I ever heard one. I think everyone has seen the new Mac commercials lately. I know I've laughed my *** off at them.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

To sum up. The amount of knowledge you applied to making a list of parts(which is a lot compare to the average joe) i applaud you. But the mere fact is a person isnt going to waste time in searching for parts to build a computer. a person that needs a computer to get the job done for a buisness or whatnot will more than likely go through a company that will get it done for them. Like Apple or ..i guess Dell(//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif ) so if a custom pc is what it takes to compete with a "mass produced " product ,then god knows what "massproduced" pc can do the same

 

[jjski78 10+ year member]

Considering those commercials don't even come out and SAY what product they are advertising, I would have to disagree.

Ok, yeah, you're right. I guess no one in the world is smart enough to figure out what they're advertising. You know, the don't like, oh, show the **** computer at the end of every commercial or anything.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[Megalomaniac 5,000+ posts]

Lol, I was never arguing what a business would by. Businesses will always buy mass produced because of the bulk warranties.

when i meant mass produced i meant like the comapny creats a lot of them. so anybody can buy. I didnt mean as an wholesale product