well my 2 12" memphis power reference up against 2 12" SE both in 4cuft ported boxes side by side says Im right. Since a 15" SX in the same size box ported is louder than my PRs and my PRs totally killed the SEs in loudness I'll take my expierience over someones word who i dont even know. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Now if we were talking SQ the SE wins hands down but they were not nearly as loud as my PRs with more than twice the wattage going to them.Tommy McKinney says otherwise...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif