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[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Are you even still talking about the video? You're arguing a new point, he's not speeding because "f the police". He's being a douche because a cop is giving him a ticket. The same as someone is being a douche because I'm denying him the money he's earned because he doesn't understand how checks work. Him being a criminal vs him being stupid is basically equivalent, both are caused by the person complaining and they're deflecting their self anger on to the person informing them of their stupidity. Welcome to psychology 101, people like this exist all over the place, a cop is going to run into them every once in a while.

Nope, saying this instance doesn't differentiate them from customer service people because it's the same bulls hit in another setting. You're the one using this as an example of what cops deal with and justifying whatever you're trying to justify with it.




lol same dude, you guys are wearing me out. I can only state it so many different ways before it accidentally changes meaning.

Bro, I get yelled at at my job also. Sometimes even go toe to toe. But Cops are people of authority, customer service people aren't. We can't compare our civilian jobs to a Police Officers, they just don't equate. A cop has a chance of getting killed with every call that he goes to, or, whenever he pulls someone over. You are seriously detached if you equate a Wal-Mart customer service job with a police officers.

 

[Lasherž]

Bro, I get yelled at at my job also. Sometimes even go toe to toe. But Cops are people of authority, customer service people aren't. We can't compare our civilian jobs to a Police Officers, they just don't equate. A cop has a chance of getting killed with every call that he goes to, or, whenever he pulls someone over. You are seriously detached if you equate a Wal-Mart customer service job with a police officers.

Not gonna repeat myself again because you're putting words in my mouth dude. I'm hardly comparing the entirety of their jobs, I'm comparing the singular situation that you brought up. You getting yelled at for something that's not your fault is the same as him getting yelled at except that if he shoots someone in response to yelling he'll be given the benefit of the doubt. It's true that there's a chance that they'll die, but as I've mentioned before the daily chance is a lot lower than a lot of other jobs, 14 out of 18 of which get paid less than cops on average. It's higher stress than those jobs most likely, but not higher risk (unless you're talking about being the spouse of a cop, in which case the odds of you being beaten are 40%+ just by self-reported numbers by the cops themselves).

It's a noble profession when done right, but when done wrong I don't think we should bask in their glory and lick their boots. A wal-mart customer service person has an easier job, but it's undeniable that they also have less responsibility to do that job well. That responsibility is both what makes their job noble and what can make them a valid target of controversy. It's also part of the job and why they get paid 5x more on average.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Man, that Trevor Noah is an absolute dumbass.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

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[Lasherž]

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Pretty sickening how many people jump over themselves to defend him. People don't often piss me off but the people claiming it's legal to shoot someone who runs at you in a state without stand your ground laws and then proceed to "defend yourself" from the results of your murder. You lose your right to self defense if you escalate to lethal force first. The second guy shot was trying to take his gun away after he murdered someone with it. The third guy just had a gun and that was enough. People showing their true colors on this for sure and there's a lot of hypocrites out there. Are any conservatives principled any more?

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

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[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

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[Lasherž]

So, it says operating a firearm while intoxicated in 2016. So, he was either 13 or 14, fukked up, and shooting a gun. That's almost hard to believe. Who was this kid raised by?

I saw some picture of his mom there with a bunch of guns too... but that coulda easily been just some other idiot who looked like her. That might support why it's not necessarily illegal for him to have the gun at 17, but she was nowhere to be found while he was killing people.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

I saw some picture of his mom there with a bunch of guns too... but that coulda easily been just some other idiot who looked like her. That might support why it's not necessarily illegal for him to have the gun at 17, but she was nowhere to be found while he was killing people.

The gun was allegedly already in Wisconsin. It was one of his friends from what I've read.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

I keep seeing pictures of the Kenosha shooter cleaning graffiti off of walls. O.k., here's a picture of Ted Bundy doing the dishes.

 

[Lasherž]

The gun was allegedly already in Wisconsin. It was one of his friends from what I've read.

I guess we'll ultimately see from the court documents but that'll take a while. If the prosecutor is anything like the police in Kenosha he'll be let off the hook easy criminally. No qualified immunity to save his *** civilly though. Is he being tried in Illinois or Wisconsin? I'm not sure.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

I guess we'll ultimately see from the court documents but that'll take a while. If the prosecutor is anything like the police in Kenosha he'll be let off the hook easy criminally. No qualified immunity to save his *** civilly though. Is he being tried in Illinois or Wisconsin? I'm not sure.

This is the most information that I've found.

New details in Kenosha shootings: Jacob Blake tasered twice; Rittenhouse attorney says he did not transport gun

As more details emerged in the Kenosha shootings, Kyle Rittenhouse will remain in an Illinois jail. He is due in court Sept. 25.

www.jsonline.com

 

[Lasherž]

This is the most information that I've found.

New details in Kenosha shootings: Jacob Blake tasered twice; Rittenhouse attorney says he did not transport gun

As more details emerged in the Kenosha shootings, Kyle Rittenhouse will remain in an Illinois jail. He is due in court Sept. 25.

www.jsonline.com

Reads like a pretty standard attorney statement. It's obviously true that when you arm yourself you increase the risk of everyone involved including yourself. Especially when you go there effectively looking to get in the middle of things with a rifle. He wouldn't of considered it a threat on his life if he didn't have a lethal weapon to be taken and used against him. The person he murdered first was unarmed. Once the prosecution speaks it'll be a whole different story I assume. They'll count shell casings and gunshots in the videos. I suspect that defense will fall apart very quickly.

 

[Bobbytwonames 5,000+ posts]

Reads like a pretty standard attorney statement. It's obviously true that when you arm yourself you increase the risk of everyone involved including yourself. Especially when you go there effectively looking to get in the middle of things with a rifle. He wouldn't of considered it a threat on his life if he didn't have a lethal weapon to be taken and used against him. The person he murdered first was unarmed. Once the prosecution speaks it'll be a whole different story I assume. They'll count shell casings and gunshots in the videos. I suspect that defense will fall apart very quickly.

I feel the whole case will come down to after he shot the first guy.
1. He called a friend, not 911
2. He tried to flee the scene of the shooting and tripped.
3. The crowd was trying to catch him and keep him there for the police.
4. Defense will say, crowd was trying to kill him and show the video of the guy with a handgun.
5. Prosecution will show the video of the guy trying to disarm him getting shot in the arm while backing off or freezing.
6. Defense will show him surrendering to the Police like, here I am, please protect me from these people who are trying to kill me.
7. Prosecution will say that the crowd was simply trying to disarm him and keep him at the scene of the initial shooting. So, that the police know who the shooter was.

My big problem is the fact that he called his friend and said, "I just killed somebody!"
That really says a lot to me about who HE is and his mentality at the time of the shooting.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Weird how people can get a hold of a minors alleged criminal record.

The person in the video being hit... what's the context and prove to me that it was a girl.

This crowd that started a dumpster fire and were continuing to cause damage... they were what, just going to calmly restrain him and gently hold him there until police arrived... you know, these people they are protesting as they commit crimes. Like nothing they just did or were doing could put them in jail?

Let's say hypothetically his goal was to go to this place and if people tried to get out of hand, shoot them. If these "peaceful protestors" starting fires and breaking the law weren't there to begin with, I wonder if there would have been any problems.

So these criminals, I mean "unarmed men of color" getting shot and or killed by police and these rioters and looters, I mean "peaceful protestors" have nothing in common........ unless you count (breaking the law, being violent, resisting the police, attacking the police, evading arrest) as long as you ignore all of that and more, then I can see why people are so upset with the police. If you take away all the crimes and lawbreaking... these people are just innocent, upstanding people being murdered and harassed by the police.