**Official NBA thread**

[btdickey99 5,000+ posts]

Who cares anyway. It is our opinion about him. I don't like him because he is a cry baby and if you can't see that, then it is because you are a Sheed fan. He is loud mouthed and albeit, he has quieted down over the years, but he still cries about shit. Look at last year in the Cleveland series. I just hate players that talk smack and cry over shit. Man up and let your talent do the talking, simple as that.

/talk about Sheed

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

He should've stayed with Horry but it wasn't a blown assignment or switch like you claimed. If Rasheed would've got there quicker, Ginobili would've had nowhere to go. Rasheed was probably thinking that with the time left, whoever got the ball was going to shoot to give San Antonio a shot at an offensive rebound. Ginobili made a quick decision to pitch it out to Horry. What should've happened was Ben Wallace should've rotated to trap Ginobili. No way Ginobili would've been able to pitch it back to Duncan, and Horry would've had to of shot over Rasheed on that 3.

LOL whatever i cant see a coach calling a trap under those conditions. traps and double teams are a catch 22. any time you trap you are leaving someone wide open. and you call it what you will but the announcers were like wtf and i remember them asking sheed about it after the game and how he should have stayed on his man.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

There are other players who argue just as much as Rasheed. He has built a bad rep because of his 40 techs in 2001. Kobe and Baron Davis each had more techs then Rasheed.

Those two players are much, much better though. So they can afford to talk/ get techs. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Also we mentioned how Kobe was a headcase earlier, yet you just pointed out how he had more techs than big mouth sheed. Imagine that.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

Yes he should've, but it wouldn't have been a bad idea if Ben Wallace rotated over however that would've left Duncan for an offensive rebound with Ben and Rasheed on the perimeter. I'm still waiting for you to show me this meltdown by Rasheed in game 7.

he was *****ing about shit from about 9 minutes on down LOL im still waiting for you to show me how he is so **** great...i think he sucks if you really want to know. if you are that talented you should show it and play without crap bothering you. it is a game you wilt under that kind of stress it speaks alot about how mentally into the situation you are. everyone of those losses even back in the portland days against the lakers rasheed always whinned. its not the type of whinning that you are pleading your case about to a ref either. he takes it out on his team and his individual play. Ever see shaq do that? duncan?garnett? anyone else on the pistons? closest thing i can recall to him is rodman and dont tell me he wasnt a head case.

 

[btdickey99 5,000+ posts]

There are other players who argue just as much as Rasheed. He has built a bad rep because of his 40 techs in 2001. Kobe and Baron Davis each had more techs then Rasheed.

Baron Daivis might have had one of the greatest dunks on someone that I have seen //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

yes its a little off subject

 

[btdickey99 5,000+ posts]

just for everyone to see //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

You don't even know what you are talking about anymore. Show me where he took it out on his team. All the current Piston players say he is a good teammate. Even his former Portland players say he was a good teammate. If he was such a bad teammate, he wouldn't have been a winner everywhere he has gone. North Carolina, Portland, Detroit, he has won.

i can show you players who won more and were less highly reguarded coming out of highschool.... i dont think you have a clue about it saying he doesnt or hasnt cost his team games before...if you cant see it fine but he will NEVER be on par with any of those players i mentioned even though his skill set might even be better than some of them. when you dont get your head into the game you cost YOUR TEAM. YOU GET TECHS IT COSTS YOUR TEAM. MAKE STUPID FOULS YOU COST YOUR TEAM. if you are that loose of a cannon in those situations you are thinking about alot more than playing basketball ....nuff said. he was on a portland team that colapsed to the lakers, 1 one championship, and every year after that 1 championship the pistons have colapsed in some fashion being upset or having a lead going into the 4th in a game 7. that portland team blew a 20 point plus lead. now am i saying its all his fault? no but i think its pretty obvious he didnt help it too much either.

 

[SHOemup233 10+ year member]

Shut up about Rasheed. Seriously.

He's great - but he's not amazing. He is a huge asset to the Pistons and I am glad we have him. Now. Can we move on?

The pistons did walk all over the sixers tonight //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif.

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

LMAO. Are you dense? The Pistons only had a 1 point lead going into the 4th against San Antonio. He was their best player in that quarter. He did not cost the team the game in game 7. Go ahead and blame game 5 on Rasheed, but not game 7. Billups was totally taken out of the game in the 4th quarter. That was the difference. The Portland collapse was not all Rasheed's fault. One player isn't responsible for a 20 point collapse. Also one free throw attempt does not cost your team games //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

are you a Sheed nut hugger? (we know you are)ever play basketball? every point counts every possession can matter if not then teams like Denver must play good defense huh?. if you are a go too player and or wont be denied on the boards a great player makes it happen.

"now am i saying its all his fault? no but i think its pretty obvious he didnt help it too much either. "

If you were to name teams who were upset or blew playoff games the most since 2000 rasheed would be on more than one of those teams wouldnt he?//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

I never said he was. He is a talented player who never played up to his talents, but it's absolutely ridiculous to say all of Detroit and Portland's playoff failures were Rasheed's fault. He still hasn't showed me Rasheed's game 7 meltdown in the 2005 finals.

you already shown one flub up in game 5. if you are going to trap at least come harder than that LOL (bad idea to trap anyway) and you have already answered half of your arguement."He is a talented player who never played up to his talents" WHERE DID HE STEP UP? i mean christ players step up for the teams they play on and win all the time. who in the fook cares if he was "pistons best player that night"? did he get the job done and lead them to victory? nooooo. better yet rather me show you where he melted down why dont you show me 1 game he played in where he didnt smack at someone and make a dumb *** foul then not whine and then ***** to an extent to the reff. he did it tonight against philly LOL Evans put a hand on him Sheed swatted it down then while they were going for a rebound Sheed pushed him down then *****ed at the ref:laugh: how many championships did that team win at Carolina? Stackhouse won a player of the year where was sheed? LOL hell he was ejected from a mcdonalds all american high school game:laugh:

 

[BATman 10+ year member]

SPURS!!!!! :goldcup:man NO is gonna be tuff , gonna be a great series though!!

 

[btdickey99 5,000+ posts]

SPURS!!!!! :goldcup:man NO is gonna be tuff , gonna be a great series though!!

late?

SPurs can **** my c0ck.... yes they are good, but boring to watch

 

[audiolife 5,000+ posts]

late?
SPurs can **** my c0ck.... yes they are good, but boring to watch

only boring if you like watching bad deffense and 1 on 1 basketball LOL

I'll take good fundamental TEAM basketball everytime. When i watch teams like denver, dallas and the suns i often scratch my head at what they were thinking playing defense. ill admit they have less flare than the lakers but with TP and MG they are more fun to watch than a team that takes 100 jump shots a game.

 

[rtillaree 10+ year member]

Rasheed doesn't even lead his own team in technical fouls.

maybe I dont understand what you said here, but Rasheed does lead the Pistons in technical fouls, he had the 3rd most technical fouls in the 2007-2008 regular season with 12 behind baron davis and kobe. he has 3 currently in the post season behind allen iverson with 4. Sheed was #1 last season with 21, the year before with 17, and the year before that with 27...

 

[bigbangtheory 5,000+ posts]

maybe I dont understand what you said here, but Rasheed does lead the Pistons in technical fouls, he had the 3rd most technical fouls in the 2007-2008 regular season with 12 behind baron davis and kobe. he has 3 currently in the post season behind allen iverson with 4. Sheed was #1 last season with 21, the year before with 17, and the year before that with 27...

Woot! I am done with the Sheed shit!

Go Cavs!