Nissan rolls out long-awaited GT-R super-coupe

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

point proven:any car can be made fast so why buy an ugly *** car

ugly is subjective. quick is undeniable //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. and fast out of the box > fast with more money IMO.

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

Says the man willing to compare a GTR's time on slicks in the wet to another car's OEM tires in the dry....

*ahem* thats cut slicks.

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[hoss 5,000+ posts]

im not trying to act like a fanboi of the GT-R, but i still attest that dollar for dollar, nothing is going to touch this car...

 

[Lingerfelt 10+ year member]

strap some carved slicks on the Z06 and take it around the ring in wet conditions, and i would like to see it do the same time...

It wouldn't, at all, however, do you really know how wet it was?

When they do a true test, we'll see the results.

And I'm not denying they will be impressive.

 

[Lingerfelt 10+ year member]

*ahem* thats cut slicks.
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Ah yes, shall remember to use all necessary adjectives. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[Lingerfelt 10+ year member]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times

Check it out, very interesting to see the times of some of these cars.

Also good if you'd like to quote official sentences like AZBass. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[hoss 5,000+ posts]

It wouldn't, at all, however, do you really know how wet it was?
When they do a true test, we'll see the results.

And I'm not denying they will be impressive.

again, ill agree with you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

ive been waiting to see some skid pad results of the car. they came out with "big news" that it pulled 2g's, but then later said that it was on the nurbirgring, which means it was probably in the high banked corner, and was not lateral.

its not going to be the hands down *** spanker, but for a factory released sports car at its price point, it is going to be **** hard to beat...

 

[Qbenjamin 10+ year member]

$70K > Meh

I guess I can stop dreaming.

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

lingenfelter corvettes would take shits on this car

Not really. The current Z06 is already tailhappy. There is no way the Lingenfelter would make it out of the 'Ring intact unless you pulled back significantly on the curves. Hell when Motor Trend did a comparo of Third-party-tuned super cars (including a Hennessey Venom Viper, a couple mustangs, and I think another c6), they could barely launch the thing because of all the fishtailing, and they ended up destroying the rear diff on one hard launch (I think after they switched to grippier tires, possibly slicks). Bottom line, I doubt the Lingenfelter Z06 would be able to utilize enough of its exra power to gain much on a car like the GT-R, which was engineered with curvy roads in mind.

 

[Fast1one 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif Everyone has a flop, and Nissan's Q series is no different, hell even Nissan fanatics admit that its a shitty engine, which is why many of them are swapping VQs...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Is this how you made 19,000 post? Dumb remarks like this?
At least my Sentra was made the same decade as the GTR. You can hardly compare any two cars that are 20 years apart. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

That's the problem with most automotive forums these days. Too many Fast and Furious wanna-be fan bois given each other a reach around for having a bigger deck wing. Nothing wrong with Japanese, but it hardly the only thing out there and just because a vehicle is Japanese doesn't guarantee any type of quality.

I owned that Sentra for 4 months in which I had 3 major recalls and 1 replaced engine. When the 2nd engine started exhibiting the same problems I traded it in. So far, the only issue in a year and a half with the Passat was a small leak that the dealer fixed and reflash of the transmissions ecu. I won't even mention the fact that that the VW FEELS 1000 times higher in quality than the Nissan. Any Nissan. There is a reason GM tried to imitate the Audi/VW interior in almost every one of their high line new cars/trucks.

When you arrive in a Porsche everyone will know it's a Porsche. When you arrive in that GT-R people are going to ask where you got the ugly body kit for your Cobalt. That's why a Porsche costs as much as it does.

 

[Ferendon 10+ year member]

I'd also like to add that the 7:38 was not on OEM tires, but on slicks, so while I'm sure the time will still be impressive... it won't be 7:38.

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This has to do with the fact that most cars don't come with 'Ring-rated tires. There's probably not a street tire that can handle what the GT-R would dish out around the 'Ring.

im not trying to act like a fanboi of the GT-R, but i still attest that dollar for dollar, nothing is going to touch this car...

Word.

It wouldn't, at all, however, do you really know how wet it was?
When they do a true test, we'll see the results.

And I'm not denying they will be impressive.

I'm sure some magazine will have an answer to this question as soon as a production model hits a car lot.

Not really. The current Z06 is already tailhappy. There is no way the Lingenfelter would make it out of the 'Ring intact unless you pulled back significantly on the curves. Hell when Motor Trend did a comparo of Third-party-tuned super cars (including a Hennessey Venom Viper, a couple mustangs, and I think another c6), they could barely launch the thing because of all the fishtailing, and they ended up destroying the rear diff on one hard launch (I think after they switched to grippier tires, possibly slicks). Bottom line, I doubt the Lingenfelter Z06 would be able to utilize enough of its exra power to gain much on a car like the GT-R, which was engineered with curvy roads in mind.

Could this be due to inferior chassis design? The 'vette is still rockin' leaf springs for Christ's sake. And I work with a LOT of Ford. The new Mustang is FAR from impressive, in every category. Even the 'vette proves that the Viper is of inferior design. And the vette itself is of inferior design. They have tweaked and tuned the SHIT out of that car, just to handle the stock power levels, and even so, it doesn't do so very well.

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

Could this be due to inferior chassis design? The 'vette is still rockin' leaf springs for Christ's sake. And I work with a LOT of Ford. The new Mustang is FAR from impressive, in every category. Even the 'vette proves that the Viper is of inferior design. And the vette itself is of inferior design. They have tweaked and tuned the SHIT out of that car, just to handle the stock power levels, and even so, it doesn't do so very well.

Chevy is apparently going to put a pretty nice suspension in the next version of the vette. The new vette isn't inferior, it's actually a very nice piece of machinery. chevy just missed the mark in a couple places. And I don't think it's rocking just any old leaf springs IIRC. The vette is a solid platform, with a few things that need to be remedied. unfortunately, most vette tuners are more interested in huge horsepower than being able to take a turn. I would be very surprised if Lingenfelter did much of anything to the suspension of the Z06 they tuned for the showdown i mentioned.

 

[W8 a minute 10+ year member]

About the only benefit coils springs have over leaf springs in this situation is weight. Even then I think the Vette's leaf spring is composite although I'm not certain.

You say "rockin leaf springs" like it's a 1970 F100 Ford truck when the Vette has a fully independent suspension which is totally different.

None of these cars are made for drag racing so having a poor launch does not surprise me.

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

About the only benefit coils springs have over leaf springs in this situation is weight. Even then I think the Vette's leaf spring is composite although I'm not certain.
You say "rockin leaf springs" like it's a 1970 F100 Ford truck when the Vette has a fully independent suspension which is totally different.

None of these cars are made for drag racing so having a poor launch does not surprise me.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif the 'vette doesn't keep the tires down around turns either. Thus, the suspension and/or tires are insufficient. It has been repeatedly stated that the 'vette is exceedingly tail happy

 

[Lingerfelt 10+ year member]

This has to do with the fact that most cars don't come with 'Ring-rated tires. There's probably not a street tire that can handle what the GT-R would dish out around the 'Ring.

Eh? As if the GTR is the most powerful, amazingly nimble car out there?

That is a very poor excuse, "Oh yeah, our car would have been faster, but you know... those tires, they just weren't up to it..."

That's like the guy suggesting a Lingenfelter would shit on this car around the 'Ring saying, "The Lingenfelter would've killed the GTR... but the tires just couldn't handle all the power, so they spun the entire time. If we would've hooked up, the LPE would've STOMPED YOU!"