New product feeler - elastomeric glue for enclosures

[XaznKewLguyX 10+ year member]

when is it available? Need a solid sealed box for my TC10.

 

[Volenti 10+ year member]

I'd suspect the HT crowd would be into it more than the mobile enthusiast; All we need are rock-solid enclosures.
If the product does /that,/ we're down. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

It seems to me that an elastomeric would be to reduce ringing at higher freqs;

Is that accurate?

I'd agree with this, midbass/midrange enclosures would benifit from this (a lot), bass, not so much, it's better to stiffen the enclosure to the point of raising wall resonance above the operating range than leave it there and try and treat it, no matter how good the treatment is.

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

There was a product like this out in the early 90's from Dynamic Control (I think). It's no longer on the market and probably for a reason.

 

[PatFitz9 10+ year member]

would it be strong enough to hold the wood together? it sounds like too much work for not much gain.

 

[snoopdan 5,000+ posts]

ive experimented with a ton of adhesives, deadeners of materials ranging from mica paper to marble, and its VERY hard to justify any of the semi to definate exotic materials for any street beat application based on material cost - which im sure is the intended selling crowd. Especially when you can just get your box coated with truck bed liner and have a perfectly sealed enclosure inside and out and be extremely cost effective doing so.

Good luck with your results, but quite frankly I think you're barking up the wrong tree....personally if I were in the sound deading R&D portion of the business, id be looking to spray on deadeners that use compressed air as the propellant so anyone can do it at home.

 

[BigOso 10+ year member]

Ant, if you would like a complete and unbiased review of the product I have a major build coming up and would be willing to go with your method if you supplied the deadner and then write a review based on the findings.

 

[djman37 5,000+ posts]

I see 2 1/4" sheets glued together being split open when trying to screw the panels together.

then don't screw them together!?

 

[BiaBia 10+ year member]

I see 2 1/4" sheets glued together being split open when trying to screw the panels together.

Thats why you predrill.

 

[DaGh0st 5,000+ posts]

sounds like a cool idea...

 

[btlking 10+ year member]

Good luck with your results, but quite frankly I think you're barking up the wrong tree....personally if I were in the sound deading R&D portion of the business, id be looking to spray on deadeners that use compressed air as the propellant so anyone can do it at home.

the spray deadener sounds like a really good idea

 

[mobeious 10+ year member]

elastomeric = rubberized = gives and stretches?? how is that good for strength?

 

[delvryboy 5,000+ posts]

Thats why you predrill.

Thats a given.... I still think it would cause problems. You have to remember, there would be a semi-hard/firm layer in between 2 1/4" sheets. I guess clamping would be the way to go.

 

[BiaBia 10+ year member]

If done correctly, i think this will be awesome for HT, but there isn't a large enough market for true car audio enthusiests.

 

[Anthony Collova 10+ year member]

Thanks for all the replie.

We are still in research phase right now. Not sure if we are going to bring this to market or not.

If anyone has any suggestions, please keep them comming.

ANT

http://www.secondskinaudio.com

 

[Rudy 10+ year member]

elastomeric = rubberized = gives and stretches?? how is that good for strength?

It isn't good for strength - strictly speaking. It's an effective mechanism for damping resonance. Stresses between the rigid MDF and the elastic adhesive convert vibration into heat. This stuff uses the same principle.