NEW credit card scam

djman37
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FWIW, our corporate security emailed this out to everyone this morning.

This is a pretty slick new scam that we thought might be of interest to you:

Note, the callers do not ask for your card number; they already have it…

By understanding how the VISA &MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works, you'll be better prepared to protect yourself and help others identify this scheme.

The scam works like this: The fraudster says, "This is (name), and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by (name of bank). Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a Marketing company based in Arizona?"

When you say "No", the caller continues with, "Then we will be issuing a credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the charges range from $297 to $497, just under the $500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?"

You say "yes".

The caller continues - "I will be starting a Fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 1- 800 number listed on the back of your card (1-800-VISA) and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control Number."

The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it again?"

Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then says, "I need to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask you to "turn your card over and look for some numbers".

There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are part of your card number, the next 3 are the security numbers that verify you are the possessor of the card. These are the numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to him. After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say, "That is correct, I just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?"

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After you say No, the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you do", and hangs up.

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What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don't give it to them. Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or MasterCard directly for verification of their conversation. VISA will never ask for anything on the card as they already know the information since they issued the card!

If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving a credit. However, by the time you get your statement you'll see charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost to late and/or more difficult to actually file a fraud report.

Hope this helps protect you and yours against this crime.

 
I think Voa was on here saying how he got foked by something like this. Thx for the info DJ. You're a good man //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif.

 
*What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card.

If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number,

Just a small correction.

That number isn't really a "PIN" (personal identification number). It's the CVV2/CVC2 security code (Card Verification Value (Visa) or Card Validation Code (M/C)) for use with card-not-present transactions. It's not used to verify that you are you (like a PIN number does), it's used to verify that you are holding the card at the time of the purchase.

Your account can have a PIN number attached to it for things like cash advances from ATM machines, and that PIN number is not the same as the CVV2/CVC2 codes printed on the back of the card.

Just so people don't get confused thinking that those #'s are their actual PIN numbers.....

'Tis a smart scam though.

 
Just a small correction.
That number isn't really a "PIN" (personal identification number). It's CVV2/CVC2 security code (Card Verification Value (Visa) or Card Validation Code (M/C)) for use with card-not-present transactions. It's not used to verify that you are you (like a PIN number does), it's used to verify that you are holding the card at the time of the purchase.

Your account can have a PIN number attached to it for things like cash advances from ATM machines, and that PIN number is not the same as the CVV2/CVC2 codes printed on the back of the card.

Just so people don't get confused thinking that those #'s are their actual PIN numbers.....

'Tis a smart scam though.
true, I just cut and pasted it.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 
Yup I did, not from visa though, This company called and said they were my bank. Told me my account number, routing number, check number etc. I will get into it in a few when i have some time though. They wiped my account out and still waiting on the money 2 months now.

 
Yup I did, not from visa though, This company called and said they were my bank. Told me my account number, routing number, check number etc. I will get into it in a few when i have some time though. They wiped my account out and still waiting on the money 2 months now.

Ouch...that sucks meng //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

 
here's a follow up for consumer protection...

Identity protection tips

How is it possible for someone to steal your name and identity? We are constantly exposed to this risk through tools and activities vital to everyday life, such as mail, telephones, computers, credit cards and debit cards. Here are some ways to protect yourself:

• Purchase a cross-cut shredder, not the kind that shreds in strips.

Thieves have been known to tape documents together. Use the shredder to destroy any mail or documents that have your personal information pre-printed on them, especially name, address and social security number.

• All credit card offers, credit card access checks (banks often send them to you printed three-on-a-page) and unused checks from closed checking accounts should be shredded rather than tossed in the trash.

• Cut up any old or unused credit cards, ATM cards and debit cards into several pieces before throwing them in the trash. To be extra safe, you can scratch the magnetic stripe on the back of the card before cutting it up.

• Never write your PIN or secret code on your ATM or credit card or on any piece of paper you carry in your wallet or purse.

• Shred all receipts that show your credit card number, debit card number and your signature.

• Shred all old bank statements, tax records, checks, investment statements, passports and medical records that show any personal information.

• Always review your credit card, bank and brokerage statements. Immediately report any unusual or unknown transactions to your financial institution.

If you order new checks or are expecting a new credit card in the mail, make a note on your calendar to verify that you receive them. Notify your financial institution if you do not receive the items promptly.

• Limit the number of ID cards and credit cards that you carry and don't carry your social security card.

• Protect your computer by using anti-virus, anti-spam and firewall software and hardware. Don't open any suspicious e-mail and don't download any software or other files from an unknown or unfamiliar source.

• Periodically check your credit report. You can get a free copy annually from http://www.annualcreditreport.com. Check it to make sure that all of the accounts belong to you and are accurate. Close any old accounts.

Lastly, if it appears that someone is using your name, your social security number or credit, immediately contact the credit bureaus (http://www.equifax.com, http://www.transunion.com, http://www.experian.com) and request that a fraud alert be placed on your accounts to block any activity. California is one of the few states that allow the consumer to directly request the block. This step will prevent the imposter from using your credit or accounts any further.

For more information on identity theft, go to http://www.consumer.gov/idtheft.

Stay Safe-

 
Hey how about this one, great thing you posted this because I got a call from them, but they didnt say what you said to the T this is what the call just did.

They said that they rechecked my information and they are calling to let me know that, they are lowering my interest rate because I have had there card for so long (visa) so I go on and listen to it. They tell me my name etc address card number. Tell me they just need the 3 numbers to verify it. Well I asked him there phone number. He said I would get that info after the whole thing was set up.I knew this was a scam 2 reasons,

1) they wouldnt talk to me about anything but wanting my 3 digits on the back of my card.

2) Main reason I knew it was a scam,,, I dont have a credit card!!! I have a visa checking account card because of problems like this before.

These guys are out to get me lol.

The biggest thing though is they target people with little credit or bad credit.

I choose to pay cash and dont need a cc card. I figure if I cant pay for it right then I dont need it.

I am in a hurry but I will tell you guys about how my money was scammed as well. And what went on and what is going on in the process of me getting my money back. Good news is I should have it next week finally.

But as I said this post was because I recieved a call today lol. What are the odds of that.

 
Good tips, in addition to that the 1st things I always do is look at the caller ID, see what it says...

If it says ""Tom Jones"" or someone name, instant flag...

Most but not all companies that call about financial stuff will be identified correctly by caller ID...

This can be spoofed too, so, I also ask for a phone number and extension to call them back at...

If they won't give me one, I ask for a superviser, and after grilling the SUP I ask for a phone number and extension to call THEM back at... If they don't give me one, I tell them to F'Off and I call the issuing Credit Card Company and inquire about the call I just received... You account should be noted....

Unwelcomed callers hate calling my house... I am such a d!ck to them....

This dude with a really think Indian accent called and said...

(in super thick accent) yadda yadda yadaa, Dis is Bob Johnson, and...

I cut him off and said, wait a min,did you just say your name was Bob Johnson???

He said yes, I said I know you did not even..... Call here talking bout your name is Bob.... With an accent like that, you know your name is somethin like Jugdish Patel or some ish with an Ach nah, Hocken in it....

Don't be callin my house lying right off the bat then expecting to do some buisness with me....

Get the F'Offa my phone and make some more Slurpies....

 
Good tips, in addition to that the 1st things I always do is look at the caller ID, see what it says...
If it says ""Tom Jones"" or someone name, instant flag...

Most but not all companies that call about financial stuff will be identified correctly by caller ID...

This can be spoofed too, so, I also ask for a phone number and extension to call them back at...

If they won't give me one, I ask for a superviser, and after grilling the SUP I ask for a phone number and extension to call THEM back at... If they don't give me one, I tell them to F'Off and I call the issuing Credit Card Company and inquire about the call I just received... You account should be noted....

Unwelcomed callers hate calling my house... I am such a d!ck to them....

This dude with a really think Indian accent called and said...

(in super thick accent) yadda yadda yadaa, Dis is Bob Johnson, and...

I cut him off and said, wait a min,did you just say your name was Bob Johnson???

He said yes, I said I know you did not even..... Call here talking bout your name is Bob.... With an accent like that, you know your name is somethin like Jugdish Patel or some ish with an Ach nah, Hocken in it....

Don't be callin my house lying right off the bat then expecting to do some buisness with me....

Get the F'Offa my phone and make some more Slurpies....
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If I get a call on my caller ID that has no name or a name that I don't reconize, it doesn't get answered.

 
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If I get a call on my caller ID that has no name or a name that I don't reconize, it doesn't get answered.
I'll answer it.... I may go off on them, or play a prank on them or something, I like to mess with people...

I'll say, no this is, such and such and make something up... Or if they ask for a girl. I'll say I threw that cheating ***** out.... or say they died, I just think of something on the spot...

sometimes I'll make'em talk to my 9 year old daughter or my 4 yr old nephew... Have the sing ABCs or alphabets... I dunno.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
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