My pg rsd65cs review as promised

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

has anyone here heard the PGs amped and on the HU? reason is my amps are coming next week. right now they are connected to the HU. what difference should i expect when i amp them?

you'll have a LOT more output and a lot more mid-bass. and just overall cleaner sound. how much power will you be giving them?

 

[mikeyq926 10+ year member]

prolly 120-150. don't wanna go overboard.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

prolly 120-150. don't wanna go overboard.

well right now i have 205 on tap for each mid, and 22 on tap for each tweeter. i am buying a DD S4 though, so that'll give me 200 per mid and 100 per tweeter. way overkill but tons of headroom.

i think when i have them cranked pretty good, the mids might see about 80 watts just by themselves and the tweeters maybe 10-15 watts. the mids will take tons of power but the tweeters won't need very much.

i am getting that amp cause i know someday i will upgrade to different drivers that could possibly end up being 6 or 8 ohms. so then i should still have enough power for those as well. i see these DD amps being the last amps i'll buy for a good long time! they are something to hold onto.

 

[mikeyq926 10+ year member]

i will prolly go active once i get a new HU later on. the amp i ordered is a 4ch. 75x4. but bridged its 225x2. can't wait!

how is the 880prs btw? where did you order it from?

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

i will prolly go active once i get a new HU later on. the amp i ordered is a 4ch. 75x4. but bridged its 225x2. can't wait!

how is the 880prs btw? where did you order it from?

that sounds good. you'll have plenty of power for them passive if bridged.

are your doors deadened and sealed? if not you need to do so.

i love the 880. endless options. i got it used but in mint cond for 270 shipped from a guy on here.

 

[skydeaner 10+ year member]

have you tried crossing the mid from 50hz/24db to 2.5k/24db, and the tweeter at 3.15k? thats what i found best so far, at least in my car in my install. those were my initial settings and i keep going back to them. i never tried them at 3.15k for the mids and 5k for the tweets though, i'll try it just for the hell of it though.
if you think the mids sound good at 63hz/24db, try them at 50hz/24db. well unless you listen to rap and music like that, idk how well the mid would like playing rap at a 50hz crossover point but i don't listen to any.

and i agree about the power, the tweets don't need much at all, and the mids will take anything i can throw at them.

they do sound very very good active.

I didn't know the tweeters would be able to handle that low of a x-over point. I will give your points a try also. The wife is gone with the car right now, but i will try it later tonight or tomorrow and let ya know what i think. I am so glad i invested in the 880 to go active though. It is like when i was 16 and gettin high and listening to music, only without having to be high for it to sound that good lol. This is of course a very untechnical way of explaining things. To be more specific, the soundstage of the system now that ihave T/A capabilities is very wide and just about chest heighth and the sound is extremely dynamic and low distortion even at high output.

and hamburgers with salso con queso, tabasco sauce and pepperoni's is simply delicious

 

[skydeaner 10+ year member]

ok so a seperate tweeter amp or a higher power midbass amp are in order. The output has went down substantially going from bridged passive to active 4 channel. I am deciding weather to add another set of rsd's up front or getting a tweeter amp. With how these sound at this point I might get more output from a second set of rsd's. Then custom panels, both woofers in door, and both tweeters in the kicks. It would be so easy I think i just talked myself into it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

And i got an ohio gen 160a alt for my matrix for such a good deal i am thinking about reselling it. They quoted me 525 for this alt when i called them. Lets just say i could sell it for substantially less and still make a hellofa profit. But of course i'm gonna try it out first. I am anxious to see what the amps do when they stay at 14.5v instead of dropping to 11.9 lol.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

ok so a seperate tweeter amp or a higher power midbass amp are in order. The output has went down substantially going from bridged passive to active 4 channel. I am deciding weather to add another set of rsd's up front or getting a tweeter amp. With how these sound at this point I might get more output from a second set of rsd's. Then custom panels, both woofers in door, and both tweeters in the kicks. It would be so easy I think i just talked myself into it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
And i got an ohio gen 160a alt for my matrix for such a good deal i am thinking about reselling it. They quoted me 525 for this alt when i called them. Lets just say i could sell it for substantially less and still make a hellofa profit. But of course i'm gonna try it out first. I am anxious to see what the amps do when they stay at 14.5v instead of dropping to 11.9 lol.

how much power do you have per channel?

i am selling a pretty big 2 channel kicker that right now is powering my mids very nicely.

did you try the mids and tweeters crossed lower yet? i think the tweeters handle the 3.15k/24db crossover setting i have them at just fine.

 

[skydeaner 10+ year member]

Yeah i tried it out and they handle it fine, but again in the 3-4.5k range ihave an enormous peak in my car, so i just set them back to 4k. Then i dont have to eq that range out at all, the rolloffs just take care of it. So i think my final resting place will be woofers at 2.5 and tweeters at 4k as weird as that sounds. It has to be my vehicle acoustics or something. I think i am just going to pick up another set of rsd's if possible. I would love to have that amp though, i just dont have that much cash.

 

[tcguy85 10+ year member]

i also just tried mine at 2.5k for the mid and 4k for the tweet both still at 24db slopes. seemed to make them sound even more smooth.

idk if you read this thread i made but i emailed PG for the hell of it to ask the FS and a recommendation on how low the tweeters should play. read here... http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=289801

they are saying they can safely play down to 2.5-3k. i was a bit worried about keeping them safe at 3.15k but they say it's fine and that we can go even lower if we want. i might try the mids at 2k and the tweet at 2.5k just to see.

 

[skydeaner 10+ year member]

Interesting indeed. Imma have to give a whirl as well.

 

[skydeaner 10+ year member]

Man my ****in rattles piss me off so bad sometimes i just feel like giving up on car audio.

 

[Punk In Drublic 10+ year member]

Just ordered a pair for myself //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Should definitely be a step up from the Polk Co-Axials I'm running now.

 

[smoka 10+ year member]

Do you guys know if the tweeter can be surface mounted to the grill of the midbass?

 

[19992wdtaco 10+ year member]

I just ordered a set should be here by thursday. I want to run my wiring before they get here. Where are you guys putting the tweeter, not sure if the set likes the tweeter within 2" of the mid or higher up like on the sail panels?