mtx 9500 or jl w7

[bigbirney420 10+ year member]

w7 may sound better at lower watts, but also more money. Its hard to beat the 9500 if powered right in the right box. I have JL w6v2 and the mtx 8500 10's sounded better than what I bought. Plus w7 are more difficult to install with the way surround set up. H2's are good for all around Spl but they are power hungry, must have at least 1500-2000 watts for effective listening and they still have some rolloff and sloppiness.

 

[Warbleed 10+ year member]

w7 may sound better at lower watts, but also more money. Its hard to beat the 9500 if powered right in the right box. I have JL w6v2 and the mtx 8500 10's sounded better than what I bought. Plus w7 are more difficult to install with the way surround set up. H2's are good for all around Spl but they are power hungry, must have at least 1500-2000 watts for effective listening and they still have some rolloff and sloppiness.

The W7 will sound better at ANY power level. Lower BL and lower Cms distortion = lower distortion, period.

I sincerely doubt that installing a W7 will pose much of a problem for the average user.

I also disagree that ANY driver needs 1.5-2kW to sound good. That's just stupid. Drivers INCREASE in distortion AND compression with power, so your claim poses a clear contradiction to the facts of how loudspeakers function.

It's not the first time I've heard such a claim, but it remains false nontheless...

 

[1972chevelle 10+ year member]

hey josh the xxx is still there and i still think im going to buy one but i wanted to hear some opinions on other subs before i do plus if i get that xxx i want the 18...... not real sure when im going to be able to get one..... i called last month and they said they would have them in by mid feb..... and as far as i know they still dont ....... correct me if im wrong.... im going to try to give them another call today

 

[bigbirney420 10+ year member]

The W7 will sound better at ANY power level. Lower BL and lower Cms distortion = lower distortion, period.
I sincerely doubt that installing a W7 will pose much of a problem for the average user.

I also disagree that ANY driver needs 1.5-2kW to sound good. That's just stupid. Drivers INCREASE in distortion AND compression with power, so your claim poses a clear contradiction to the facts of how loudspeakers function.

It's not the first time I've heard such a claim, but it remains false nontheless...

Apparently Ames Iowa is the end of the universe for car stereos, or you work for cyclone. None the less every woofer is different. I had an h2 12 that was getting 1000 watts, and it was sloppy and slow. The box was built to spec by my brother that went to the installer institute. The techs at Orion also told me that for best SQ the H2 needs between 2000 and 2500 watts for best sound.

As far as the w7 there will always be something better, maybe just not now, and its all relative anyway. Each person has diiferent listening tastes and preferences the w7 are overpriced as most JL stuff is. I can say that because half of my equip is JL. The average Joe is not going to go out and buy some w7's.

JL also recommends that only certified installers do the W7 and my brother and his installer buddies that sell them had special training for them. The "average user" could not always install right and it voids the warranty for them anyway.

 

[Warbleed 10+ year member]

Apparently Ames Iowa is the end of the universe for car stereos, or you work for cyclone. None the less every woofer is different. I had an h2 12 that was getting 1000 watts, and it was sloppy and slow. The box was built to spec by my brother that went to the installer institute. The techs at Orion also told me that for best SQ the H2 needs between 2000 and 2500 watts for best sound.As far as the w7 there will always be something better, maybe just not now, and its all relative anyway. Each person has diiferent listening tastes and preferences the w7 are overpriced as most JL stuff is. I can say that because half of my equip is JL. The average Joe is not going to go out and buy some w7's.

JL also recommends that only certified installers do the W7 and my brother and his installer buddies that sell them had special training for them. The "average user" could not always install right and it voids the warranty for them anyway.

I don't work for a car audio shop. I don't care what Orion's techs said, adding power will increase excursion, impedance, and distortion. It makes NO sense to say that a driver could sound better with more power. It isn't backed up by science, reason, or measurements.

Drivers become LESS linear as excursion increases. Some moreso than others, obviously, but that's always true.

It's possible someone may LIKE the way a driver sounds at a higher excursion level, but that is a far cry from actually saying that it's more accurate, which it clearly will NOT be.

 

[chubby 10+ year member]

your question is near comical

w7 > .....

i would never own or want to own anything from MTX to begin with

 

[Bdubedub 10+ year member]

This is my first MTX sub... hopefully not my last

 

[1972chevelle 10+ year member]

chubby why do you say you wouldnt want anything from mtx? ^^^ that thing is fu

 

[Bdubedub 10+ year member]

Havent hooked it up yet, waiting on the box

 

[1972chevelle 10+ year member]

yea thats cool what kind of box you going to do?

 

[1972chevelle 10+ year member]

Hey i got a ? if anyone could help me does anyone have and db numbers on a jl w7 12 or 13.5 or two w7 whatever you have im just wondering what they hit around and if it was sealed or ported............. i tried to look under the db numbers forum but theres to a lot of pages and i may have missed them but i couldnt find any on the w7 thanks.....mike

 

[-JB 10+ year member]

W7.

Not an MTX fan.

 

[Bdubedub 10+ year member]

Not sure on the box, probably going to order from Top Edge Online... and get the box Audio Enhancers builds specificly for this sub.

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

Gonna have to say what everyone else is...

I loved my 12W7 as well...You'll never go wrong with one of them trust me!

Just the 9500 will pound a lot more...but the w7's will pound and give ya SQ

 

[Echo42987 10+ year member]

Man dube...your postin' that pic everywhere! Your really proud of that thing lol!