Mag v4 Production complete

[negative3five 10+ year member]

I have to also agree wit nick again that not all XBL drivers sound the same I own 4 diff ones and I can tell which is which instantly but I will say they have a simular sound like nick said no distortion that's kinda like sayin every driver that's over hung sounds the same...audioholic not tryin to argue wit u cause I think ur deff one of the most knowledge able people on here also just diff of opinions this time it happens...

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I have heard multiple XBL^2 and other linear BL optimized subwoofers and I think they sound completely different from one another. Each subwoofer I've heard has been engineered differently from the other and have almost nothing in common other than the fact that they all maintain their individual "sound" and keep distortion to a minimum better over stroke compared to standard motor topologies. I suppose that is where a lot of people think they might sound similar - in that they don't distort like normal topologies do. It is odd, but it's pleasantly odd. I'm having a hard time enjoying the bottom end of my music with other subwoofers we have laying around since we tested the bejesus out of the Mag proto.
On the note of all XBL^2 drivers sounding similar here are T/S's from a few XBL^2 drivers:

Re: 3.6, Le:1.8, Fs: 19.2, Qms: 3.65, Qes: 0.44, Qts: 0.39, Vas: 218.44, Cms: 0.25, SD: 790, Xmax 30, BL: 16.5, Mms: 274.8, SPL: 87.3

Fs 34Hz, Qms 2.2, Vas 23.77 litres, Xmax 11.1 mm, SD 127.5 sq cm, Qes .41, Qts .35 Re 6.4 ohms, Le .75 mH, Z 8 ohms,

Fs: 17.1 Hz, Le: 0.87mH, Re: 3.1 Ohms, Qms: 6.88, Qes: .43, Qts: 0.40, Mms: 442g, Cms: 0.19 mm/N, Vas: 383L, Sd: 1182 cm^2, BL: 18.6, X-max: 33mm, 88.4dB/1W/1m

You're saying that all of those drivers will sound similar?

Of course they will not represent the same. Even xbl^2 motor designs are constrained by traditional t/s parameters. I guess I spoke too boldly when I said they all sound similar, I was referring to the distinct lack of BL distortion and the sound characteristic it tends to give (or more accurately, that it removes).
My point was your statement that you'd put this driver against any in terms of SQ was also just as bold. If we are agreeing xbl^2 motor topologies display similar distortion curves, then comparing your driver to others in terms of SQ really just comes down to the same old same old argument over which specs are most important for "SQ" (Fs, BL, etc). That wont lend itself to people getting in line to buy your product, as that's pretty much the same boat every manufacturer is in.

The SDX15 uses a Brahma motor. The top assembly is new however. Why do you say its marketed for home audio, the low Fs or the rumored fragility of the soft parts? Might as well start under mining them now. lol //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[negative3five 10+ year member]

If you want I can compare the new mag to the brahma mk3 which is almost the same motor as the css sdx lil difference but close enough and was designed for ca use. it'll prob be alittle bit I don't really have any extra money right now for another driver.

 

[Audio Junkies 10+ year member]

I just received an anonymous email tip that the new Stereo Integrity Mag subwoofers are being made in the Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan by Borat and his family. Supposedly the build quality is superior to China, America, the Philippines and even Madagascar.

They sent proof...

 

[BLD 25 10+ year member]

very niiiiice!

 

[Electrodynamic 10+ year member]

Thanks Noah. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif And I know about the second part. I can't stop people from posting though. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

I think Neil hit the nail on the head (once again).

Borat...that shiftless bastard. Our source has been compromised. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

I had no idea Borat was involved with this project.

 

[02parkave 5,000+ posts]

Judging a product by the basket appearance - Wrong.Judging a product by the motor topology - Wrong.

Judging a product by the country it was made in - Wrong.

Judging a product by the company's name on the dustcap - Wrong.

Judging a product by the end result (measured and listened) - Right. Anything else is just silly.

The bad thing is that you've got 02parkave against you know and we all know that when he doesn't like something, he won't shut up about it until he's dead. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

I think the Exodus stuff is a little bigger competition than the CSS stuff at the moment. Kevin has all sorts of cool things he is always working on, and the Shiva-X is only $135 right now. It is, however, significantly less dressed up and trades off a bit of enclosure size for low frequency extension.

i havent liked si for years i dont think its affected him yet

 

[ultimate157 5,000+ posts]

i havent liked si for years i dont think its affected him yet

Here's a question for you: What products do you like ? All I've seen out of you is bashing. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

 

[dcole18 5,000+ posts]

Here's a question for you: What products do you like ? All I've seen out of you is bashing. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

mach 5

 

[02parkave 5,000+ posts]

Here's a question for you: What products do you like ? All I've seen out of you is bashing. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

thread isnt about me.

but, m5, ssa, re, dc, fi is alright, sundown, rockford amps, focal, morel, rainbow, dynaudio, pap, soundsplinter, tc (minus the laughably high prices, and shitty spiders), jl (again- more $$ than needed.) alpine, eclipse, pioneer, the list goes on

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

I *know* you secretly hold a deep love for Sony Xplod - you are only lying to YOURSELF!

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[02parkave 5,000+ posts]

I *know* you secretly hold a deep love for Sony Xplod - you are only lying to YOURSELF!
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that was supposed to be our little secret. i do still wish i had my sony es c90....

now stop posting and get to work on your big spl driver.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

http://stereointegrity.com/forums/si-products/223-t-s-parameters.html

Any particular reason you're being so stingy with the T/S ? And how soon will it be tested @ DIYMA ?

The Mag has me intrigued due to it's compact size and reasonable price. But if I can't get an idea if it's going to suit my particular needs because you aren't releasing basic info like T/S parameters.....I'll probably just look elsewhere.......

It appears you're taking the "just trust us" approach.....but you also have to trust that the consumer is smart enough to make their own decisions //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Thanks Noah. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif And I know about the second part. I can't stop people from posting though. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif
I think Neil hit the nail on the head (once again).

Borat...that shiftless bastard. Our source has been compromised. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

HYE FIIIVE!!!!

nG