Lost your job yet? Keep buying foreign. Here we go... :) I know

[Dr. Slam 10+ year member]

these cars are built in the USA hahaha so buying a so called foreign is supporting US jobs bro

I never said that wasnt the case. I was just saying I dont agree with people assuming that foreign is automatically better when it comes to buying a car

 

[MANTI5 10+ year member]

No one said anything about automatically being better because they're foreign, just that they are currently and have been for a while.

 

[Dr. Slam 10+ year member]

find me a car or truck more reliable than a toyota...
-so how do we get your economic theory to work mr. common sense?

I guess this statement doesnt qualify as automatically being better...

Also, I never said what you're implying I said. I stated that I hate when people automatically make that assumption.

 

[schackel 10+ year member]

If you actually read what I posted, I said research. You're an idiot to just assume that because its a toyota its more reliable than any other car.
Where is your money going if you're supporting small businesses and american companies?

your terrible at research if you think there is something more reliable. im not assuming...i am constantly looking at reliability evaluations.

and your question has nothing to do with what i asked.

 

[Flex68 10+ year member]

I gots 2 Mopars and 2 imports (Mitsubishi and Honda), but I do consciously try to buy American-made products whenever possible.

That being said, a quik story that may help illustrate why imports have such a great reputation:

Old lady used to work for Dana Corp. This particular location made constant velocity joints for both domestic and foreign auto manufacturers, to their agreed-upon specifications. She said that tolerances for domestics and GMC were waaaay easier to manage than for Toyota and Nissan.

In fact, whenever they had assembly issues that were found during QC testing, they could "hammer mechanic" the guilty CV joints/batches a bit for domestic mfgs and get away with it.

However, if the freaking paint was smudged (much less being scarred by being struck with a hammer, post-assembly) on even one batch that was being sent out to the foreign companies, they knew that the entire truckload would likely be coming back as "rejected."

They expected the work be done fast and to exacting tolerances....and that was for common CV and universal joints!

Could be why they have the long-lived, high-mileage reputations that they do...

Could also be why Dana Corp went bottoms up a few years back, lol

 

[schackel 10+ year member]

I guess this statement doesnt qualify as automatically being better...
Also, I never said what you're implying I said. I stated that I hate when people automatically make that assumption.

why hate it when its true? thats like hating that people eat mcdonalds because its fast when they havent actually gone out any tried to see if other places are faster. Its a commonly accepted truth.

 

[schackel 10+ year member]

No one said anything about automatically being better because they're foreign, just that they are currently and have been for a while.

^^^this, like I said...its just a common acceptance. and i am sure once we see an american car that is more reliable, we will never hear the end of it.

 

[Dr. Slam 10+ year member]

find me a car or truck more reliable than a toyota...
-so how do we get your economic theory to work mr. common sense?

Now you explain how the question I posed to you has nothing to do with what you asked. Or maybe your arguing just to be arguing...

 

[Dr. Slam 10+ year member]

^^^this, like I said...its just a common acceptance. and i am sure once we see an american car that is more reliable, we will never hear the end of it.

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but you'll still find something to debate with me about

 

[Dr. Slam 10+ year member]

3 toyotas and at least 11 american cars if you dont count Daimler-Chrysler cars

 

[schackel 10+ year member]

Now you explain how the question I posed to you has nothing to do with what you asked. Or maybe your arguing just to be arguing...

you said "if we support more american companies and small businesses then we will do better as a country." and i asked how do we make that work?

I never questioned whether or not supporting small buinesses helps our economy or not (which is what you falsely addressed when saying "Where is your money going if you're supporting small businesses and american companies?") therefore your question had nothing to do with what i asked.

 

[schackel 10+ year member]

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but you'll still find something to debate with me about

That was the most unhelpful link you could have posted. No of what is being showing on that cite supports your argument with any credibility or accuracy.

-When you think of reliability do you really think 6months is enough time to judge that? the answer is no.

-What do you think a US government supported website will try and convince people to think? the answer is "that american cars are the best" to like you said, "support our economy"

-When you think of a leader board for the most reliable car for a given year what is the most important thing to do to show the results? the answer, have them in a list in order of reliability, with numbers? with some means of order?

 

[Dr. Slam 10+ year member]

That was the most unhelpful link you could have posted. No of what is being showing on that cite supports your argument with any credibility or accuracy. -When you think of reliability do you really think 6months is enough time to judge that? the answer is no.

-What do you think a US government supported website will try and convince people to think? the answer is "that american cars are the best" to like you said, "support our economy"

-When you think of a leader board for the most reliable car for a given year what is the most important thing to do to show the results? the answer, have them in a list in order of reliability, with numbers? with some means of order?

lol you just want to argue for the sake of arguing and I have a grlfriend that serves this purpose so this ends now. You stated that there isnt one american made car that is better than any toyota yet you havent show any proof of this yet. Your argument is also rendered invalid by the fact that there are toyotas that are made in america but thats another story.

Well maybe supprting small businesses doesnt help our economy and if that did infact help our economy maybe us collectively doing things that help our economy doesnt help us as a country...

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

these cars are built in the USA hahaha so buying a so called foreign is supporting US jobs bro

That is a popular misconception. Several decades ago the Japanese realized the import tariffs on a car brought into the US in pieces was much less than they were for a fully assembled car. So they started building assembly plants in the US, with a side benefit of being able to claim 'made in America'. The reality is the vast majority of labor goes into building those pieces of the car, the body, the drivetrain, etc. Very little labor goes into the assembly process, comparatively speaking. And what work is involved is highly automated.

Dont be fooled by marketing gimmicks.

 

[madcad95 10+ year member]

Don't care if foreign is better nothin but ford and chevy in my driveway and that's the way I am gonna keep it anyways I go thru cars like stereo equipment lol.