lol @ the idiots thinking f bodys and fox's can handle

[ballstothewall 10+ year member]

f-bodies date back to 67.

Your point is?

Chevelles are A-bodies

 

[ballstothewall 10+ year member]

Stock Chevelle's suspension Sucks. If you take a stock '69 SS to 115mph, its kinda scary.

 

[93 saturn sl2 10+ year member]

yep you got me on that one... didn't know that, but still I think most people on this thread knew we were talking about 93-02 camaro/firebird models, and I'm not positive, but I don't think the chevelle was a f-body.

I think your right about what years they're talking about too (93-02).

 

[DeViOuSoNe 10+ year member]

First of all, dont get into 4 cylinder cars when were talking about a power thread. lol
I have nothing at all against old muscle cars, but whomever started this thread talking about the newer F-bodys has no idea. Line a newer 98' Fbody Transam all stock up against a all stock Chevelle. The chevelle will not stand a chance. Dont get me wrong. Old muscle cars can be built to hell of drag cars. I've owned a few. But to say a F-body cant handle much is insane. I've got a buddy that has a 600 hp z28 on a stock 10 bolt rear end with 4.10 gears. :0

I know this is somewhat off topic, But anyone can have a car with A TON of HP with a stock rear...But can he launch that car with slicks at 5 grand? Or anywhere close? Ummmm, No. Any car can handle the power if you sink the money into it. Especially the newer ones, Older cars were a lot heavier than cars today, lol. Like racing a 99 camaro, against a tank

 

[Brian SS 10+ year member]

So your argument is that because a newer stock f body can out preform a car from the 70's, it therefore must be a great handling car. Well i would hope after 30-40 years they could make some improvements. The sad thing is, the technology is about the same.

The sad thing is you have no idea what you are talking about. Oh yeh thats right you read somewhere that a live axle will handle like shit, so it must be true. A 67 Camaro and an 02 Camaro both have a live axle, but that is the only thing that is the same. For some reason you think if a car has independent rear it must handle well. Face it dude you are clueless on what works and what doesnt. You have zero experience driving any of the cars mentioned in this thread and should go back to playing video games.

Since you guys are so in love with the Supra, you take a stock Supra ands a stock 98 Z281LE and race them on any track and the Camaro will win everytime. Roadcourse, autox or even a drag strip for that matter. Ask me how I know.

 

[Acidburn 5,000+ posts]

A 67 Camaro and an 02 Camaro both have a live axle, but that is the only thing that is the same.

Let's see. Solid rear axle. Independant front suspension. Base models with 6 cylinders. High-end models with 8 cylinders. Supposedly 4 seaters, but the backseat is tiny. Uni-body with a front sub-frame. Offered with both manual and automatic transmissions.

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

The sad thing is you have no idea what you are talking about. Oh yeh thats right you read somewhere that a live axle will handle like shit, so it must be true. A 67 Camaro and an 02 Camaro both have a live axle, but that is the only thing that is the same. For some reason you think if a car has independent rear it must handle well. Face it dude you are clueless on what works and what doesnt. You have zero experience driving any of the cars mentioned in this thread and should go back to playing video games.Since you guys are so in love with the Supra, you take a stock Supra ands a stock 98 Z281LE and race them on any track and the Camaro will win everytime. Roadcourse, autox or even a drag strip for that matter. Ask me how I know.

Yeah, i must be a retard. Thats why every single sports car that is worth a shit has some form of IRS. You just can't admit defeat, and thats fine. You keep bringing up what you've done, but it doesn't prove shit. You're just some biased owner, and a fan boy. You have no credibility, you can't prove anything, and you have nothing to back any of your claims up.

 

[95bat 10+ year member]

LOL @ the internet warriors in this thread.

 

[Brian SS 10+ year member]

Yeah, i must be a retard. Thats why every single sports car that is worth a shit has some form of IRS. You just can't admit defeat, and thats fine. You keep bringing up what you've done, but it doesn't prove shit. You're just some biased owner, and a fan boy. You have no credibility, you can't prove anything, and you have nothing to back any of your claims up.

Yes, you are a retard. The smartest thing you have said so far. I have plenty to back up what I say, 4 time SCCA champion and have raced/driven more cars then you think you know about. I am not biased, just know from my experience that late model Fbods are good handling cars. Something you might know if you have ever driven one. Are they the best, nope not at all, but very good. Like I asked earlier, WTF have you done? So far you just shoot your mouth off but have no real experience to back it up. Living close the Heartland Park doesnt mean sh!t unless you have actually driven on it. So tell me why you are so credible. BTW I will be there in September for the National Championships. Come out and learn something.

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

you're right, every other credible source is just wrong. thats all.

 

[Brian SS 10+ year member]

Let's see. Solid rear axle. Independant front suspension. Base models with 6 cylinders. High-end models with 8 cylinders. Supposedly 4 seaters, but the backseat is tiny. Uni-body with a front sub-frame. Offered with both manual and automatic transmissions.

Yeh and a 50's Vette and 06 Z06 are the same too.

Please.

 

[Brian SS 10+ year member]

you're right, every other credible source is just wrong. thats all.

What credible source? You mean a magazine who has the car for a few hours for testing? How about lap times, results from autox's and roadracing.

What experience do you have? A question you just keep avoiding. Dont beleive everything you until you have done it yourself.

 

[chris96camaro 10+ year member]

What credible source? You mean a magazine who has the car for a few hours for testing? How about lap times, results from autox's and roadracing.What experience do you have? A question you just keep avoiding. Dont beleive everything you until you have done it yourself.

What i think you are overlooking is the driver of said cars. Someone who knows how to drive wont have a problem beating a supra or whatever else, if the driver of said car isnt a driver.

And I understand that the professional driving circuits are all good drivers, but thats not what he was referring to originally.

 

[Brian SS 10+ year member]

What i think you are overlooking is the driver of said cars. Someone who knows how to drive wont have a problem beating a supra or whatever else, if the driver of said car isnt a driver.
And I understand that the professional driving circuits are all good drivers, but thats not what he was referring to originally.

I agree, a good driver can change everything, but I have driven my Camaro and a bunch of other cars on the same day at the same track and compared them.

What makes me mad is this bozo started out this thread insulting Fbod and Mustang drivers without having any experience to back it up. For some reason their is this myth that Fbods dont handle, which is just wrong. One more thing about the solid axle myth. Take a look at a racing Kart. They have solid axles and are extremely fast around the corners.

 

[chris96camaro 10+ year member]

I agree, a good driver can change everything, but I have driven my Camaro and a bunch of other cars on the same day at the same track and compared them.What makes me mad is this bozo started out this thread insulting Fbod and Mustang drivers without having any experience to back it up. For some reason their is this myth that Fbods dont handle, which is just wrong. One more thing about the solid axle myth. Take a look at a racing Kart. They have solid axles and are extremely fast around the corners.

I believe he has owned at least one mustang? But I'm not 100% sure.