Linear Excursion

[JoseMCeee 10+ year member]

haha agreed. I've noticed people failing miserably at humor in the last couple days, if you want to be funny, BE ORIGINAL! The same old stuff is played out and never was funny to begin with. .

yea let me guess whats next.

Supa C posts and says.... FUNKY PUPS!!!. 10 Inches XMAX!!

 

[nametaken 10+ year member]

It's not linear ... do you honestly think that, with a few modifications, you can increase the W7's already astounding Xmax by 70% ? I don't think so ... Also, considering JL Audio always has and probably always will rate Xmax by the one-way voice coil overhand method (Voice coil height minus top plate thickness, divided by 2), it would require a complete redesign of the driver, not just a few modifications ...I don't see linear anywhere in there ... do you ? ... The W7 is capable of roughly that amount of excursion as well ...

http://www.jlaudio.com/HT/HT_SubTech.html

I mean, you heard if from the makers themeselves.....

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

yea let me guess whats next.
Supa C posts and says.... FUNKY PUPS!!!. 10 Inches XMAX!!

Uhm, no

The LAMARE has the most X max of any sub that ive seen.

According to Adire, the parthenon isnt a sub //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

http://www.jlaudio.com/HT/HT_SubTech.html
I mean, you heard if from the makers themeselves.....

Funny how the one guy calls it a driver then says box.

Plenty of marketing crap in that video

 

[nametaken 10+ year member]

Funny how the one guy calls it a driver then says box.Plenty of marketing crap in that video

Sure, every company does it(marketing) one way or another, but i think JL is professional enoughnot to lie about what the sub can do. It might not be perfectly linear, but if its capable of moving that 4" p2p(in the real world).

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

Question is...

Why dont they just list it as 4"p2p ?

 

[nametaken 10+ year member]

Where the **** did they say LINEAR excursion ??? 4" p-p out of either version of the W7 is not linear ...

Answer me this first, in order for you to get more output because of greater excursion does it have to be perfectly linear? And calm now on the atttitude, were on tEh InTRawebz. Your liek that guy that wants to diqualify a team becuase of minor technicalities even though their playing fair game. Eh, that wasnt that good of a example but whatever, its 4am.

Question is...Why dont they just list it as 4"p2p ?

They really dont have any info on the sub. Myabe when its released( i dont think its out yet) theylle have the full specs on it.

And doesnt that amp put out like 3600 rms? Thats liek 1800 a driver, i think its fair to say the dub7's been revamped.

 

[supa_c 5,000+ posts]

I bet that thing sounds nasty

The infamous " wooshy" sound from W7's would be quite loud

 

[Decipha 10+ year member]

hey nametaken... word of advice... don't argue with a mod, you may have trouble with future logins

 

[jellyfish420 10+ year member]

i like when they said" it'll move 2" p2p. but when you put it in a big room that needs to have more output it'll move 4" p2p."

what you don't need more power? it just sences how big the room is???

 

[nametaken 10+ year member]

Let's go over the entire conversation, shall we ?






1) This thread is named "Linear Excursion" ... Your first post implied linear excursion considering that's the name of the thread ... Thus the reason why I stated that it wasn't linear ...

2) After I stated that it wasn't linear, you defended it claiming it was, in fact, linear excursion. Now you've retracted that statement and, instead of admitting you're wrong, you said it's a minor technicality ...

3) You provide the video as proof, yet all it did was prove that they never actually said linear excursion

4) I never said that the excursion had to be linear in order to gain output. However, that gain in output from exceeding linear excursion also comes with a significant gain in distortion, too ...

5) Using "the ****" is giving attitude ?

1) Listen, nowhere does is say its not linear so if you wanna get technical ill stick to what im thinking, hell if your doing it no reason for me not too. Im willing to bet once the spes are published it will have an xmax in the upper 40's,not exactly 50(for that 4" p2p).

2) And jeez, as i had nothing(neither do you if wanna get technical) i kept bringing up "its what the engineers said", "according to them", i thought i made it clear that it was hear say type information, not written down anywhere. I mean i even said

They really dont have any info on the sub. Myabe when its released( i dont think its out yet) theylle have the full specs on it.

to supa c

3) I used it as what they claimed. And again like i said I think JL is better than lying about what a sub can do. If you dont, well obviously thats your opinion.

4) I never said you did, i was askign you a question. So even if it might interfere with how its sounds (might //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif ) it still capable of USING that 4 inches at one point. But if to them, the dub7 uses this 4 inches and it such an awesome sounding sub(again..to them) then mayeb that 50mm is linear.

5) And really, you saying F U C K where it isnt needed at all, not attitude. ? Eh, i guess i was brought upa little different.

Maybe i put a little too much trust in what JL says, but liek ive said too many times before, i think theyre professional enough to not have to lie and/or exagerate claims.

And Supa C, whats wrong with arguing with mods, theie poeple too. Even if i am wrong i did learn something, and mayeb others did too, thats the main reason i visit forums.

edit: i mean decipha

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

Jesus Jmac, didn't know I couldn't joke around with Kephart...

 

[AznRevlAzn 10+ year member]

the are you constantly calling thr w7 dub7? IMO your giving it a bad Audiobahn esque feature.

And i am 100% behind Jmac. I am not *******, it's because in the past he is literally never ever wrong.

 

[FOSGATE JOE 10+ year member]

l.o.l caraudio geeks at war //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/popcorn.gif.32dd9e22fd77e77bc3c907062768fcd2.gif :swordfigh

 

[mega1268 10+ year member]

What does the guy mean........ it has 2 inch peak to peak then it can "shift gears" and go to 4 inch p2p........ wtfs that supposed to mean. W7 has a sub ****** for bigger rooms.