Agree 100% but it doesnt do any good. Personally i use another forum too, i like to read on this forum, and talk/get help on the other one. I once heard that CA makes 50k a year from all the advertising. Whether its true or not im not sure but CA definately makes more than the cost of keeping the site running. Paying mods isn't needed i dont think but if the admin could work with the mods or assign another admin (with equal or some lesser powers of full admin) to do that job would be nice. Ive only been here since 06 but the members are more out of hand than the spam in my opinion. I dont think it will change but whatever.