I can see your point, but the drugs you mention are so much more harmful than marijuana or alcohol. Have you seen someone on PCP? They pretty much don't feel any pain at all, and that is a VERY dangerous person. Plus those drugs are addictive, which can lead to an even faster downward spiral, marijuana is non-habit forming.
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Look at how many people smoke weed, which the government sees NONE of the profts. If they regulate it and tax it, over the next few years our economy would actually be stable.
Skyrocketing was probably a bad word choice, but really legalizing it would definitely strengthen our economy
If weed were to be legalized, it would need to be restricted the same way as alcohol is; primarily, but not limited to, driving under the influence. Marijuana affects different people in different ways. I know that I personally would not trust myself to drive after smokin' weed. If their were some sort of penalties preventing that, I'd be fine with it.
There is also a big difference between the stoner and the smoke every once in a while at parties.
There is also a big difference between the stoner and the smoke every once in a while at parties.
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Theres no way to regulate it in aspects like alcohol. You cant give someone a piss test to see if they are high. You cant give a breathalyzer to see if someone is high.
Its not phsyically addictive, but who says its not mentally? I know alot of kids who smoke tobacco AND marijuana and they admit to being fully addicted to tobacco, but still not wanting to stop smoking weed.
It wouldnt really boost the economy... You think your neighbors 17 year old kid who sells 1oz. of pot is going to report it to the government and pay taxes on it? No. That doesnt make any sense.
You could legalize it totally, so that even if someone had 100,000lbs of it, it wouldnt be illegal. They will sell however much they can, and not report it. You really thing a drug dealer is going to report his sales to the government, even if its legal?
If it was legalized totally, then big corporations would start growing and selling it, the taxes the government would impose would be very high, and price would skyrocket on pot you buy from the store. That would either 1) skyrocket the price of all weed, so that noone would buy it anymore, leading to other drug use, or 2) raise the price of store bought weed so much that it would go even more underground, being harder for police to crack down on big time drug dealers who sell weed in huge quantities.
Drug dealers are going to sell huge amounts, which would be illegal anyway, therefore not paying taxes. Then the government would make a new department trying to stop people from bootlegging huge amounts, spending lots of money and time to fund this department.
Its a lose-lose. If you want to smoke it, go right ahead. Just dont have it legalized.
Its not phsyically addictive, but who says its not mentally? I know alot of kids who smoke tobacco AND marijuana and they admit to being fully addicted to tobacco, but still not wanting to stop smoking weed.
It wouldnt really boost the economy... You think your neighbors 17 year old kid who sells 1oz. of pot is going to report it to the government and pay taxes on it? No. That doesnt make any sense.
You could legalize it totally, so that even if someone had 100,000lbs of it, it wouldnt be illegal. They will sell however much they can, and not report it. You really thing a drug dealer is going to report his sales to the government, even if its legal?
If it was legalized totally, then big corporations would start growing and selling it, the taxes the government would impose would be very high, and price would skyrocket on pot you buy from the store. That would either 1) skyrocket the price of all weed, so that noone would buy it anymore, leading to other drug use, or 2) raise the price of store bought weed so much that it would go even more underground, being harder for police to crack down on big time drug dealers who sell weed in huge quantities.
Drug dealers are going to sell huge amounts, which would be illegal anyway, therefore not paying taxes. Then the government would make a new department trying to stop people from bootlegging huge amounts, spending lots of money and time to fund this department.
Its a lose-lose. If you want to smoke it, go right ahead. Just dont have it legalized.
Nah, I don't think that they would impose a huge tax on it. Would you have to pay more? Probably. Would it be worth it? Probably in the long run, imo. Also, they don't have to set ONE price on marijuana. There are many different strains and qualities in which prices would vary, just like any other product.
I think he means it would be impractical, which I agree with, but the swab would work
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Most drugs start off as plants. A couple additives, a little refining, and you have a serious drug. It starts off as a harmless plant, then with technology out of a camp in Bolivia that doesnt even have electricity or running water, its transformed into cocaine.
Same with heroin. Opium and Poppy plants get additaves synthesized with morphine, and you have one of the most addictive substances known to man. Does it matter how addictive/dangerous it is? No. If you need your fix run over to England or the Netherlands and get a perscription for diamorphine. Under that name, heroin is a legal preseciption drug, just like how weed is here in America.
When you think about it, heroin and cocaine have more medical usage applications than marijuana. So why not legalize them under prescription as well?
Theres just no reasoning that validates your point to have weed legalized.
Same with heroin. Opium and Poppy plants get additaves synthesized with morphine, and you have one of the most addictive substances known to man. Does it matter how addictive/dangerous it is? No. If you need your fix run over to England or the Netherlands and get a perscription for diamorphine. Under that name, heroin is a legal preseciption drug, just like how weed is here in America.
When you think about it, heroin and cocaine have more medical usage applications than marijuana. So why not legalize them under prescription as well?
Theres just no reasoning that validates your point to have weed legalized.
What medical advantages are there to cocaine and heroin?
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Do you really see police officers going out of their way to give roadside piss tests to some guy who is high as a kite and backed over a mailbox just so you can toke up and watch South Park?
Thats rediculous.
Fast food industry doesnt have anything to do with this. Look at the taxes imposed on alcohol and tobacco. They are quite high because they want people to use less of them. Same with gasoline.
You really think the 15 year old who wants to get high with his buddies is going to go to a store and buy weed? There would be an age limit, so they would just buy from a friend who bought from a drug dealer. The government wouldnt see shit for profits on any of that.
Go smoke more weed.
Thats rediculous.
Fast food industry doesnt have anything to do with this. Look at the taxes imposed on alcohol and tobacco. They are quite high because they want people to use less of them. Same with gasoline.
You really think the 15 year old who wants to get high with his buddies is going to go to a store and buy weed? There would be an age limit, so they would just buy from a friend who bought from a drug dealer. The government wouldnt see shit for profits on any of that.
Go smoke more weed.
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From wikipedia on Herion:
In situations where the addictive quality is judged to be of lower consequence than other measures (such as cases of terminal illness) diamorphine is a valuable drug. The slow and often very painful end to a cancer sufferer's life can be greatly relieved by the careful use of diamorphine to relieve the pain and worry. In this situation the drug can allow a sufferer to live their last few weeks more actively and independently than would otherwise be possible.
And cocaine is still used to this day in the medical field. Its the best topical anisthetic there is. When you have to get a surgery done in your mouth, its quite common that they sprinkle a tiny amount on the area to numb it. Not enough to get you high or anything like that, but enough to deaden the area.
I totally agree that tobacco and alcohol have no reason to be legal. I cant argue that point. But theres a problem... They already tried it, and people werent too happy about that.
Weed is technically illegal. But if you are caught with a little but for personal use, the worse they will do is a slap on the wrist. So as I said, technically it is illegal, but when it comes down to it, there are tougher consequences for drinking alcohol underage, rightfully so. Any weed smoker has it pretty good. Its not dangerous to the individual person and theres really no reprocussions for having it.
So why complain?
People still use it, hell, gasoline isn't a drug, but as a society we are addicted to its usage.
Yes, 15 is too young, but thats why there would be an age limit on it, like alcohol and tobacco, but that probably wouldn't stop them from getting it.
Why would anyone have the need to go to a drug dealer anymore (if this were to happen). The 15 year old would just have a bum buy it for them, for a little extra, so he can get his fix on alcohol. Either way, they would have access to it.
But I am glad to see someone making good points, rather than hank over there.
Thank you for that article, I was unaware of that usage for heroin. The cocaine one I knew about, but I was thinking on a more larger scale I guess.
I'm not really complaining about it being illegal though, I just think our country would be able to benefit from it being legalized. But then again, these are just opinions
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If the kid can pay a bum $5 to buy him an oz of weed for say $50 (no idea on weed prices, this is just an example), he ends up with an oz of weed for $55.
Say there is a guy who has a couple plants and sells it to people in the area. He doesnt have to pay employees, taxes, etc. He can sell much cheaper and make even more profit. So he sells the kid an oz for $40.
The kid has the choise to find a middleman and spend $10-15 more, or just walk down the street, ring a doorbell, and buy the same product for $40. What do you think he would do?
Im always down for a good debate with someone who can actually form a structured sentence with his opinions. When people start "NO UR AN IDOIT IT NEEDZ TO BE LEGAL! smoke weed EVERTDAY!", I just give up.
My time is up though, I got shit to go do.
Say there is a guy who has a couple plants and sells it to people in the area. He doesnt have to pay employees, taxes, etc. He can sell much cheaper and make even more profit. So he sells the kid an oz for $40.
The kid has the choise to find a middleman and spend $10-15 more, or just walk down the street, ring a doorbell, and buy the same product for $40. What do you think he would do?
Im always down for a good debate with someone who can actually form a structured sentence with his opinions. When people start "NO UR AN IDOIT IT NEEDZ TO BE LEGAL! smoke weed EVERTDAY!", I just give up.
My time is up though, I got shit to go do.
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