both are good speakers as far as the kickers eating anything but JLs dust as they pass them toward sub supremicy I have had rfs and JL and pioneer nickels and lanzar and crunch vegas impacts and with the right amount of power and for the price the JLw0 make you feel like you are sitting in an earthquake don't get me wrong the kickers are good too I want to see someone put a W7 up against kickers L7 or L5 I'll take w7 and 3 points