just got a speeding ticket

[Danger06Ranger 10+ year member]

whos the fucking dumbass who dont know how to swear on a forum? you
and act like youve never dpne anything dumb

Not that dumb, I pay attention to speedlimits

 

[Villeza1 10+ year member]

Shit happens

 

[forbidden 10+ year member]

i understand that fully, but if i dont want to wear it, why should i? I disagree with the seatbelt law and the helmet law...
like i said, most of the cars i grew up driving dont have seatbelts.

Laugh of the day.... a 19 year old who "grew up" driving a vehicle that has no seatbelts..... unless you are from the backside of Redneck Mountain in Hillbilly County all vehicles have seatbelts and all are required to be worn. The stupid mentality of a young male never ceases to make me laugh.

OP - you provided the officer the opportunity to pull you over. Pay the man if you think that you are special and be prepared to pay the man every time that you get caught. Perhaps natural selection will remove you from doing this though....

 

[hzsogood 5,000+ posts]

I was getting road head by this chick one time and I wasn't paying attention to where I was driving, hit a deer and the airbags went off, and bitch bit my dick.. and also found out she was a liar, because it was apparent that she really could deep throat ..

 

[tee 10+ year member]

$100 speeding ticket is pretty cheap.

 

[armitank]

shit mcfuckerson

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Im surprised so few people here have heard the counter argument to saying that choosing to not wear a seat belt is a victimless crime (besides yourself). The monumental argument against that logic, and against the same logic being applied to helmet laws is simple: insurance costs. If you have insurance, and are severely injured in an accident due to not wearing your seat belt, the insurance company still has to pay for your injuries. And that means customers of the insurance company who had no control over your choice to not wear the seat belt, have to foot the bill via higher premiums. And no, you cant just say 'then dont make insurance pay for injuries related to not wearing a seat belt' because many times it is very hard to discern how the injuries would have occurred had the driver/passenger been wearing a seat belt. That would lead to insurance adjusters having to make a judgment call that would invariably be argued against, lead to lawsuits, and thus drive up insurance premiums for all insurance customers. The only easy answer is to just give in and wear your safety belt. At least motorcycle riders can amke an argument that helmets block visibility and impair hearing, there by creating their own hazards. Yes some people have been killed because they were wearing their seat belt, but you cant assume if they hadn't had it on, they would have been 'thrown free' and thus not been killed. A few cases of people dying due to wearing seat belts is far out shadowed by the number of people who live because they had their seat belt on, that's a fact.

To the OP, your excuses why you should get away without a ticket only show you didnt learn anything from the encounter with the police. So there's absolutely no reason to think you would have learned your lesson, that its not okay to speed even at 2am, had the cop issued a warning. Knowing this, the cop obviously made the right choice. After a few more times of paying a fine and watching your insurance rate increase, you will learn too. Im not judging you, we all have to learn the hard way in some things, this is simply one of yours.

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Oh, and to the person who said all cars have seat belts, you simply arent old enough to remember when seat belts were options in cars. Many of my old muscle cars through the years either came with no seat belt, or came equipped with lap-belts (not over the shoulder). Lap belts have been proven to be so dangerous (cause internal injuries even in relatively slow crashes) that the seat belt requirement for vehicles equipped with them was removed. And if you own a car that did not come from the factory with seat belts, there is no law requiring you add them (or hence, wear them).

 

[infamous_e46 5,000+ posts]

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[bsean63 10+ year member]

im not arguing that im "special" and didnt deserve the ticket, its just the only reason he gave it to me was to meet his quota for the month...

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

Again, speed limits are not about safety, they are about revenue. Yes, it's against the "law", such that it is, but 44 in a 35? I mean, c'mon, most likely the OP was travelling on a road that can support 45mph+ but it is set so damn low that it guarantees what? Revenue. Yes, you guessed it. I mean, 9 mph over the "speed limit"? Speed limits are supposed to be set based on an engineering study basing the limit on the 85 percentile rule, namely the road should support a speed that 85% of the traffic travels at. But very few municipalities do this or when they do, they use those little radar trailers that have the local police departments logo all over it so when people see it they slam on the brakes thinking that there is a cop lurking in the bushes. Talk about skewing the results!

And in most states, legislatures have changed the laws so that speeding tickets are treated as civil matters, meaning the lowest proof of guilt is used (preponderance of the evidence) and no prosecutor is required.

Get a good radar detector and be alert when you drive, that's all I can say.

 

[AlterEgo99 5,000+ posts]

Or I am sure as some "do gooders" will say, "Obey the speed limits!". I'll take my chances, thanks.

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

Get a good radar detector and be alert when you drive, that's all I can say.

I've thought about getting a radar detector but every time I do, I can't help but think that if there was any chance of the officer letting me go with a warning, as soon as he sees the radar detector, that chance is gone....It just screams "I speed all the time, and I even spent money so I could do it without getting caught"

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

Again, speed limits are not about safety, they are about revenue. Yes, it's against the "law", such that it is, but 44 in a 35? I mean, c'mon, most likely the OP was travelling on a road that can support 45mph+ but it is set so damn low that it guarantees what? Revenue. Yes, you guessed it. I mean, 9 mph over the "speed limit"? Speed limits are supposed to be set based on an engineering study basing the limit on the 85 percentile rule, namely the road should support a speed that 85% of the traffic travels at. But very few municipalities do this or when they do, they use those little radar trailers that have the local police departments logo all over it so when people see it they slam on the brakes thinking that there is a cop lurking in the bushes. Talk about skewing the results!
And in most states, legislatures have changed the laws so that speeding tickets are treated as civil matters, meaning the lowest proof of guilt is used (preponderance of the evidence) and no prosecutor is required.

Get a good radar detector and be alert when you drive, that's all I can say.

Ive lived in a lot of different states over the years. Surprisingly (to me at least), the seeming sensibility of speed limits seems to vary quite a bit depending on the state you are in. Midwestern states seem to be more conservative, while western states seem to be less so. Southern states seem to be hit or miss. Either way, I think its a bit naive to suggest speed limits are only for revenue generation, or strictly based on safety. The truth lies somewhere in between.

You saying the OP was traveling on a road that could easily support 45mph is simply a guess on your part. Yes speed limits tend to be rated conservatively more than recklessly (obviously), if in either direction... but some speed limits are right on the money. And speed limits have to take all situations into account.. is it a bright sunny summer day with high visibility, a foggy fall evening when visibility is poor? Is it raining heavily? Snowing? All these situations have to be accounted for, and leaving that up to each individual driver would lead to abuse based on the notion everyone thinks they are an above average driver, or above the rules. And sometimes statistics point out problem areas that common sense does not detect. Who knows why some certain seemingly innocuous curve on a road claims a statistically high number of lives each year, but if it does, it is the govt's responsibility to address the problem.

In the end, I guess I'll be that do gooder you talked about and say obey the speed limit. If the speed limits in your area are unjustly low, we have a system in which you can voice your opinion. Plenty of ways to do so. If you chose not to, and simply break the law... fine. But dont come here and ***** you were treated unfairly when the cop didnt let you off with a warning. The way i see it, you dont just take your life in your hands when you speed, you take the lives of everyone around in your hands too. A responsibility many people take far too lightly these days. Do I speed sometimes? Sure, im not suggesting I dont. But Im not so naive as to suggest there is no good reason for speed limits other than to generate revenue, or suggest most all speed limits are too low. But then, Im not so important that my time is too valuable to not be worth allowing me to leave for my destination 1-5 minutes sooner so that I can get there on time without doing 9mph over the limit.

If you want to discuss revenue, lets look at the other side of the coin. Its well know cops let people go 5mph over the limit before even considering pulling them over (usually). In my highschool drivers ed class years ago, the officer who came in to talk to us even said this. What happens when the vast majority of people assume they have the right to break the law by 5mph? The cops then have the right to pull over virtually anyone, at any time. Bam, automatic insurance policy to generate revenue, and to invade our privacy virtually at will. But as said above, if you want to fight this, dont use that 5mph that they 'give' you. 9mph? You should assume you'll get pulled over for that if a cop sees you. And assuming you will get a warning is just being naive. Complaining about it here only shows a lack of experience in dealing with this situation.

 

[bubbagumper6 5,000+ posts]

Ive lived in a lot of different states over the years. Surprisingly (to me at least), the seeming sensibility of speed limits seems to vary quite a bit depending on the state you are in. Midwestern states seem to be more conservative, while western states seem to be less so. Southern states seem to be hit or miss. Either way, I think its a bit naive to suggest speed limits are only for revenue generation, or strictly based on safety. The truth lies somewhere in between.
You saying the OP was traveling on a road that could easily support 45mph is simply a guess on your part. Yes speed limits tend to be rated conservatively more than recklessly (obviously), if in either direction... but some speed limits are right on the money. And speed limits have to take all situations into account.. is it a bright sunny summer day with high visibility, a foggy fall evening when visibility is poor? Is it raining heavily? Snowing? All these situations have to be accounted for, and leaving that up to each individual driver would lead to abuse based on the notion everyone thinks they are an above average driver, or above the rules. And sometimes statistics point out problem areas that common sense does not detect. Who knows why some certain seemingly innocuous curve on a road claims a statistically high number of lives each year, but if it does, it is the govt's responsibility to address the problem.

In the end, I guess I'll be that do gooder you talked about and say obey the speed limit. If the speed limits in your area are unjustly low, we have a system in which you can voice your opinion. Plenty of ways to do so. If you chose not to, and simply break the law... fine. But dont come here and ***** you were treated unfairly when the cop didnt let you off with a warning. The way i see it, you dont just take your life in your hands when you speed, you take the lives of everyone around in your hands too. A responsibility many people take far too lightly these days. Do I speed sometimes? Sure, im not suggesting I dont. But Im not so naive as to suggest there is no good reason for speed limits other than to generate revenue, or suggest most all speed limits are too low. But then, Im not so important that my time is too valuable to not be worth allowing me to leave for my destination 1-5 minutes sooner so that I can get there on time without doing 9mph over the limit.

If you want to discuss revenue, lets look at the other side of the coin. Its well know cops let people go 5mph over the limit before even considering pulling them over (usually). In my highschool drivers ed class years ago, the officer who came in to talk to us even said this. What happens when the vast majority of people assume they have the right to break the law by 5mph? The cops then have the right to pull over virtually anyone, at any time. Bam, automatic insurance policy to generate revenue, and to invade our privacy virtually at will. But as said above, if you want to fight this, dont use that 5mph that they 'give' you. 9mph? You should assume you'll get pulled over for that if a cop sees you. And assuming you will get a warning is just being naive. Complaining about it here only shows a lack of experience in dealing with this situation.

I spoke with a couple state troopers once and they actually said their "number" was 13 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

Meaning you have to be going at least 13mph over the limit for them to pull you over...mind you this is probably aimed more towards the highway