JLaudio W7

Originally posted by wesleysh As far as I know JL is not the brand of choice for rappers (Mystikal runs Solobarics, thought I'd say that for the Kicker fans). But I have spread the news about athletes and entertainers. But my experience comes from asking about it because I have 2 friends in the NFL and my other source is CRIBS, lol. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif So a limited selection at best.

I don't get car magazines, so I know nothing of the rappers that are featured in them. I know Busta Rhymes is heavy into car audio, what does he run? Master P has unlimited selection, what does he run? I have no idea, just know they were featured so I want to know. I would really like to know what someone like Lenny Kravitz or Enrique Eglesias runs. Their not super cool or anything, but I'm sure they demand a very sonically accurate sub. And I'm sure they know a little bit more than the average audiophile as to how their music is supposed to sound, they were there when it was made!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
Lil Bow Wow runs JL....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 
Originally posted by mr4pto Heh the thing is Ranger I am absolutely amazed by my xtant amps. The raw clean power in the mids and high is just unbelievable. It is deafening. As far as the sub amp goes, people were like you need a 1001 on each of those subs because they are so incredible. Blah to that. I have my 1001 set at 2/3 and the LFQ at 8 db and it absoulutely pounding those subs. When I turn it up it sounds like the subs are giving up way before the amp is even close to being at its peak output. I just think they are unreal. My ampbox was plexi covered but I had to remove the plexi since the 1001 was thermalling. But since I removed the plexi I have had no problems. Doesnt even get too warm in there if my seats are down. The power just amazes me, but then again I havent that much high end stuff so I dont have anything real to compare it to. I am gonna go get metered one of these days and see how that goes.
XTANT, is overpriced...you might hear me say overpriced a lot, and go, **** he is cheap...well I say hol don a second to that...I would gladly pay 5000 dollars for a huge amp, IF and only if it was worth it. Let me tell you about my beaf with XTANT. A while back, a buddy of mine was running an XTANT amp at about 1 ohm. Actually it was like 1.3...the amp fried, and he sent it in for repairs...it was still under waranty...he paid a good deal of money for that amp, but the amp was promptly sent back to him saying this type of damage is NOT covered under waranty. He called and called, but every time they answered, they transfered him from person to person...it ended up he had to pay to ship it AGAIN, and had to pay around $65 to get it fixed...

 
Well that does **** and is kind of gay of Xtant. Heh I am glad that I wont have that problem because since I bought new with full warranty, I believe it has a 4year warranty. Supposedly if anything goes wrong I just have to take it back to Tweeter and they should take care of it. Technically I am covered no matter what because if Xtant is gay and says something isnt covered then i'll stick get a new one because if its not the amps fault, its the installations fault heh...as far as I am concerned atleast:). Oh yeah and no matter what happens I do not have to pay for shipping:D You should give them another chance. I really have not heard anything bad about them at all from non internet people:)

 
Originally posted by mr4pto Well that does **** and is kind of gay of Xtant. Heh I am glad that I wont have that problem because since I bought new with full warranty, I believe it has a 4year warranty. Supposedly if anything goes wrong I just have to take it back to Tweeter and they should take care of it. Technically I am covered no matter what because if Xtant is gay and says something isnt covered then i'll stick get a new one because if its not the amps fault, its the installations fault heh...as far as I am concerned at least:). Oh yeah and no matter what happens I do not have to pay for shipping:D You should give them another chance. I really have not heard anything bad about them at all from non internet people:)
The only other problem is that they overheat, a lot, around 1 ohm. Not that they still blow their board, but they tend to shut off...I have seen this a lot at comps...it's kinda imbarrassing, showing off your system, then-cut- it's gone...the thing that gets me is, they don't always do it, it's kinda a random thing...

 
Originally posted by wesleysh As far as I know JL is not the brand of choice for rappers (Mystikal runs Solobarics, thought I'd say that for the Kicker fans). But I have spread the news about athletes and entertainers. But my experience comes from asking about it because I have 2 friends in the NFL and my other source is CRIBS, lol. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif So a limited selection at best.

I don't get car magazines, so I know nothing of the rappers that are featured in them. I know Busta Rhymes is heavy into car audio, what does he run? Master P has unlimited selection, what does he run? I have no idea, just know they were featured so I want to know. I would really like to know what someone like Lenny Kravitz or Enrique Eglesias runs. Their not super cool or anything, but I'm sure they demand a very sonically accurate sub. And I'm sure they know a little bit more than the average audiophile as to how their music is supposed to sound, they were there when it was made!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif
Silk the Shocker runs Rockford well at least n his esclade he had 4 15 power DVC's I think.

 
Originally posted by RangerMan  

The only other problem is that they overheat, a lot, around 1 ohm. Not that they still blow their board, but they tend to shut off...I have seen this a lot at comps...it's kinda imbarrassing, showing off your system, then-cut- it's gone...the thing that gets me is, they don't always do it, it's kinda a random thing...

Yeh that would probably be embarassing heh. The first day I had it when my amp box was closed the thing was shutting off like every 10 minutes. Most annoying thing ever being it the first night I had it. But I got that fixed and havnt had any problems since. Running it at 1.5 ohms so shouldnt have any problems. I am thinking about going up to a third 10W7 on it and dropping it to 1 ohm but people say that it wont have enough power to run them efficiently, what do y'all think

 
Originally posted by mr4pto  

 

Yeh that would probably be embarassing heh. The first day I had it when my amp box was closed the thing was shutting off like every 10 minutes. Most annoying thing ever being it the first night I had it. But I got that fixed and havnt had any problems since. Running it at 1.5 ohms so shouldnt have any problems. I am thinking about going up to a third 10W7 on it and dropping it to 1 ohm but people say that it wont have enough power to run them efficiently, what do y'all think
I think that you would have to have another amp...

 
JL have got it sussed – JL’s management are a very capable bunch of people, genius’s I would even go as far to say. Why? Because everyone believes in the JL hype. Their marketing is so effective that it targets just about everybody, at all price points so what ever your budget and whatever music you like, you can afford a JL sub, be it a W0, a W3, W6 or the new W7.

That is why many start out with a JL system, whether you are a superstar rapper, baseballer, basketballer, or any regular Joe Shmoe – JL has got you by the nuts. Their sophisticated sales technique, good profits for JL stockists and retailers:greedy: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/greedy.gif.5a53e6246569d7ab79867170f3b06629.gif , combined with a GOOD ALL ROUNDER PRODUCT that will satisfy the desire of those who don’t know better has resulted in their huge success.

But if you were to boil this debate down to its essentials, you will see that the underlying theme is this – ignorance. Joe goes to an audio store to get a system. Before he even has time to say “Oh, Im only looking round to see what I like”, the salesman is sticking Joe’s face into an expertly crafted JL demo install with a W6 or W7 or even a lower class JL sub – Joe, knowing little says wow! I really want that.

He is stripped of his cash and handed JL goods, oblivious to other choices that set the world of car audio alight – Treo, DD, Crystal, Eclipse, MMATS, ID, Adire, BA, RE, sHoCkEr AuDiO, OZAudio, Blueprint, all very very capable drivers, as capable as any JL yet costing significantly less……

………that’s the truth….and whether you like ‘em or hate ‘em, JL have made a name for themselves. And 4 that, I take my hat off to them – respect JL.

 
Originally posted by wesleysh the W7 only stepped up to be PART of a higher class, not in a class of its own.
spot on...............no matter what price point Jl tried to hit up, there was always something comparable and just as good AND often cheaper.

some examples of subs available that could rip Jl a new one........AND you could get 2 of sub X for the price of 1 JL...............

W3

IDQ, Shiva, OZ Audio Matrix

W6 old version

Kicker Solobaric (round, old skool), Eclipse ALum DVC's

W6v2/W7

Brahma, IDMax, DD3500/9500 seies SEALED, Eclipse Ti's, OZ Audio Power series - there's more but I cant be bothered (don't forget Focal too!!!)

so wherever JL are, they're part of an elite group, not as one, not superior and high above all else - it has competition. had this competition been absent, then JL would truly be arevolutionary, great wooofer.................................this is my case //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/satan.gif.9c6a335ed7aeeed3ee273e573f1fcaac.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

wHo'S wItH mE???

 
Originally posted by jtmoney  

spot on...............no matter what price point Jl tried to hit up, there was always something comparable and just as good AND often cheaper.

some examples of subs available that could rip Jl a new one........AND you could get 2 of sub X for the price of 1 JL...............

 

W3

IDQ, Shiva, OZ Audio Matrix

 

W6 old version

Kicker Solobaric (round, old skool), Eclipse ALum DVC's

 

W6v2/W7

Brahma, IDMax, DD3500/9500 seies SEALED, Eclipse Ti's, OZ Audio Power series - there's more but I cant be bothered (don't forget Focal too!!!)

 

so wherever JL are, they're part of an elite group, not as one, not superior and high above all else - it has competition. had this competition been absent, then JL would truly be arevolutionary, great wooofer.................................this is my case //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/satan.gif.9c6a335ed7aeeed3ee273e573f1fcaac.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/cool.gif.3bcaf8f141236c00f8044d07150e34f7.gif

 

wHo'S wItH mE???
I'm with you Jt...the only thing I respect about JL is their innovation in car audio...

 
well i personally think that the W7 is an over rated p.o.s even if you can get it for 500 i listened to one for about an hour and it ended up givin me a headache ( prolly cuz of the price) if i had the money to get one id much rather get somthin that not many ppl would buy. somthin most ppl dont hear of less they really know there audio. i mean most ppl at least a little into car audio know of the W7 but unless they really into it they prolly wouldnt know of the XXX' or some of the other high end subs if i had around 600 to spend on a woofer it sure as hell wouldnt eb that one

 
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