JL Audio 13w7 or Phoenix Gold Ti elite

What sub would be better the JL Audio 13w7 or the Phoenix Gold Ti elite? I have never heard the Phoenix Gold Ti elite. What amps would give the best performance of each subwoofer? I was think about putting two or four in a Chevy Silverado Ext. Cab; i know i can fit two but i dont know about four.

 
i've heard of major SQ problems with the Ti Elites. a couple ppl over at CAF tried them about 6 months ago and absolutely hated them. said they distroted easily and were just overall badd woofers. This was also coming from established installers, not some newbie. One of the guys dropped some W7s in the install with the Ti Elites and said there was night and day difference, hands down the JL won.

but, this is what i heard from other people's experiences. it just happened to come from 2 different people, both with the same problems, and both established installers.

 
Originally posted by paikiah I've heard that the Ti's have dimpling problems... dimpling looks down right horrible...
You betcha

I was examining one the other day. Lots of money in aesthetics and other useless crap (little led's in the diaphram - I wonder if they took into account the effect Mms would have?). I wouldn't spend my money on one, and I haven't heard one.

 
Originally posted by Mark_ab You betcha

I was examining one the other day. Lots of money in aesthetics and other useless crap (little led's in the diaphram - I wonder if they took into account the effect Mms would have?). I wouldn't spend my money on one, and I haven't heard one.
Yup, heard the dimpling from none other than you, Mark..//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Dimpling looks down right horrible...

 
Originally posted by djjdnap what the hell is dimpling, i dont think i'm the only one that dont know
I only knew about it when Mark told me about it, and sent me clips to see what it actually was..

When the sub goes to high excursion, the surrounds get a "dimple" in-betwwen lengths. It's not supposed to affect performance, but it looks nasty.

 
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