thanx for the comments. well the kicks didnt work out well //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif the mids were too deep so i couldnt get a good seal all the way around the kicks and there was no midbass as a result. word of advice to coach, if ur gonna get the kicks make sure u can fit ur mids. the ID's are oversized 6.5's so thats why mine didnt fit. most people say they can only fit 5 1/4's in there well, so i'd suggest making ur own or sticking to the doors if ur getting 6.5s. the leg room really sucks in a tacoma with the kicks (altho i'm 5'10" so i have longer legs). so back into the door they go, which i dont think is gonna go well cuz i had to use a 1" spacer (probably gotta chop up the door and glass it back together). i dunno if u guys read my other thread in the speakers section, but i dropped and broke one mid and stuck a screwdriver through the other. now i gotta shell out some more cash to get another set of mids...just my luck with these things.