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Originally posted by jlaine Bravo LWW, well handled retort(s).
Well handled, but misleading and pointless for the most part.. The only really valid point he had was the oil consumption, to that I fully agree I was grossly mistaken.. I should have looked it up before I stated it like that.. That was my bad.. But, like I noted, I glanced over the Saudi link about a month ago when LuRp offered 'proof' about things (which he really didn't offer any support to his arguments).. An excuse yes, not a good one.. I was simply in error. I will try to make sure it doesn't happen again ..

 
Originally posted by Savant Well handled, but misleading and pointless for the most part.. The only really valid point he had was the oil consumption, to that I fully agree I was grossly mistaken.. I should have looked it up before I stated it like that.. That was my bad.. But, like I noted, I glanced over the Saudi link about a month ago when LuRp offered 'proof' about things (which he really didn't offer any support to his arguments).. An excuse yes, not a good one.. I was simply in error. I will try to make sure it doesn't happen again ..

Please do me a favor, and put a frigging sock in it.

I'm growing tired of your pomposity - you have no more proof to back up your misleading and pointless rantings than anyone else. It's called your opinion, you can rant off on your own little bandwagon all you want while sneering at anyone that doesn't immediately follow you like some little lemming - but eventually you'll realize people are born with brains and they don't all immediately click into 'follower' mode like you would wish.

 
Originally posted by jlaine Please do me a favor, and put a frigging sock in it.

 

I'm growing tired of your pomposity - you have no more proof to back up your misleading and pointless rantings than anyone else. It's called your opinion, you can rant off on your own little bandwagon all you want while sneering at anyone that doesn't immediately follow you like some little lemming - but eventually you'll realize people are born with brains and they don't all immediately click into 'follower' mode like you would wish.
Ouch, lol

 
Originally posted by jlaine Please do me a favor, and put a frigging sock in it.

 

I'm growing tired of your pomposity - you have no more proof to back up your misleading and pointless rantings than anyone else. It's called your opinion, you can rant off on your own little bandwagon all you want while sneering at anyone that doesn't immediately follow you like some little lemming - but eventually you'll realize people are born with brains and they don't all immediately click into 'follower' mode like you would wish.
Ouch, burned lol.

- Steve

 
Originally posted by TheGrimReaperKD Ouch, lol
This is why I've stayed away from this thread, and the few others where the great and all powerful Savant have posted.

I've seen episodes of Jerry Springer with more tact and less arrogance than what I've been handed on this thread, and I'm supposed to just sit here and accept it? Anyone with a differing opinion, Savant jumps up with this keyboard commando slash Richard Simmons approach with the 'if you can't beat them, type them to death with responses that practically make you wish your eyeballs were sucked from their sockets and ran through a blender on 'icebreaker!'' Someone hand me a valium and a 12 pack of no-doz, I'm afraid my own system is going to go into shock from just trying to process the flowing amount of almost endless dribble that follows every thread that is started with a political agenda as the topic...

 
Originally posted by jlaine This is why I've stayed away from this thread, and the few others where the great and all powerful Savant have posted.

 

I've seen episodes of Jerry Springer with more tact and less arrogance than what I've been handed on this thread, and I'm supposed to just sit here and accept it? Anyone with a differing opinion, Savant jumps up with this keyboard commando slash Richard Simmons approach with the 'if you can't beat them, type them to death with responses that practically make you wish your eyeballs were sucked from their sockets and ran through a blender on 'icebreaker!'' Someone hand me a valium and a 12 pack of no-doz, I'm afraid my own system is going to go into shock from just trying to process the flowing amount of almost endless dribble that follows every thread that is started with a political agenda as the topic...
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- Steve

 
Originally posted by jlaine This is why I've stayed away from this thread, and the few others where the great and all powerful Savant have posted.

 

I've seen episodes of Jerry Springer with more tact and less arrogance than what I've been handed on this thread, and I'm supposed to just sit here and accept it? Anyone with a differing opinion, Savant jumps up with this keyboard commando slash Richard Simmons approach with the 'if you can't beat them, type them to death with responses that practically make you wish your eyeballs were sucked from their sockets and ran through a blender on 'icebreaker!'' Someone hand me a valium and a 12 pack of no-doz, I'm afraid my own system is going to go into shock from just trying to process the flowing amount of almost endless dribble that follows every thread that is started with a political agenda as the topic...
i personally wont take the time out of my important day to read those really long posts...

 
Originally posted by jlaine Please do me a favor, and put a frigging sock in it.

 

I'm growing tired of your pomposity - you have no more proof to back up your misleading and pointless rantings than anyone else. It's called your opinion, you can rant off on your own little bandwagon all you want while sneering at anyone that doesn't immediately follow you like some little lemming - but eventually you'll realize people are born with brains and they don't all immediately click into 'follower' mode like you would wish.
Heh.. I agree with the others.. ouch //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

Course, if you would bother to read all the posts, you would notice that I don't expect anyone to 'follow' me or what I have to say.. I could care less if anyone agrees with what I have to say or not, I just ask that if you have a differeing opinion (and decide to voice it) that you provide some kind of reasoning for it.. granted, you don't have to, but that's how a 4 year old defends opinions "cause.. I said so".. or "I don't know why I feel that way, I just do".. the last words of the truly ignorant.. So, don't justify yourself.. you don't have to, but then don't bother telling me my opinion is invalid despite my offering the basis for having formed it based on the information (which I'm imparting) I've had access to.. Besides, how can one (meaning me) change their opinion without information? You talk about me wanting people to 'follow' me, yet anyone that doesn't have reason to back up their opinions are 'following' someone (not that I want that to be me, I have enough to be responsible for) and are too ignorant to know it.. There is nothing wrong with following someone/something, just know why you are doing it... I'm finding that many on this board have no clue as to why they believe what they do, and some of them, when challenged to show why, get offended and lash out.. Others have opinions that make them happy despite the obviously false premises they have based them on.. denile isn't a river in Africa..

You speak of me not having proof.. I say things like "where's the proof of WOMD" and am greeted with 'oil fields are on fire'.. WTF? Yeah, I have to prove there are no WOMD? That isn't a reasonable request.. asking me to 'admit being wrong' (different thread) when there is no proof to show I was wrong? Yeah, you are correct.. I don't offer proof to back up my opinions.. nevermind that most of my opinions are based on things that most people with a modecome of education know.. Does that mean my opinions are based completely on pure fact? no.. does that mean my opinions are the only right ones? no.. does that mean... *sigh* why bother..

 
Originally posted by jlaine This is why I've stayed away from this thread, and the few others where the great and all powerful Savant have posted.

 

I've seen episodes of Jerry Springer with more tact and less arrogance than what I've been handed on this thread, and I'm supposed to just sit here and accept it? Anyone with a differing opinion, Savant jumps up with this keyboard commando slash Richard Simmons approach with the 'if you can't beat them, type them to death with responses that practically make you wish your eyeballs were sucked from their sockets and ran through a blender on 'icebreaker!'' Someone hand me a valium and a 12 pack of no-doz, I'm afraid my own system is going to go into shock from just trying to process the flowing amount of almost endless dribble that follows every thread that is started with a political agenda as the topic...
Heh.. well, I'm a computer programmer.. I type all day, this is nothing... it's easy and second nature.. and I've been on the internet for 11 years now.. I'm used to typing as talking.. sorry if reading and absorbing isn't your strong suit.. *shrug*

I can't help it that this medium requires tedious detail to avoid miscommunications.. Far too often people only type 1/3 of what they want to say, then get pissy that you 'made assumptions'.. I have no issues typing enough to try and ensure there is minimal room for confusion.. It's not my fault that the average person can't maintain the attention span required to read and comprehend more than a few words..

I'm not exactly sure why you think I'm touting so much arrogance. Perhaps it's just that I don't like leaving something 1/2 done.. when someone makes a statement (of any kind in response to something I post), I feel compelled to respond (not as in have to have the last word, but if someone leaves something unfinished, I'd rather provide a retorte to clarify or provide closure.. just like I'd prefer others do the same .. I don't like leaving things hanging in the wind.. just me)

don't hate me because I'm vocal //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 
You have provided no reasoning unless you feel repetitveness that is growing akin to ************ with no lubrication is reason - sure people get the idea, but ohh the chafing...

In fact, after you cut past the drivel and dumb it down, it all goes right to this: "Bush is an oil mongering grease monkey trying to show off and a general poopoo head, nah nah."

Seriously - you are carrying an agenda like a second grader that just had their lunchbox rifled through by the school bully during recess. Roseanne whined less during a drunken night of fistacuffs and general bad sitcom taping and still managed to make a few million people stare at an idiot box nightly as her voice slowly grinded braincells into oblivion by causing them to commit ******* with a dull-edged razor blade and a vengance.

I can only read so much attitude before a certain portion of me just snaps like a brittle twig and creates a catrastrophic reaction that causes a violent allergic response worse than watching Joe Pantoliano try and pretend he belonged in the Sopranos. If I wanted my head to be proverbially *****-slapped by someone with some sort of congnitive repetitive post disorder, I'd start up an official Subway forum and ask Jared to come trample me with suggestive skinny-fat man advertising. It's like watching the slow man at work getting shafted, then seeing him come up with a great retort 4 hours later and wondering why he's dancing around the office floor like Quasimodo after doing the limbo with the pole 5 feet in the air.

You haven't provided closure, you have provided a safety net of repetitiveness that makes you feel comfortable and simply insults most people by causing them to re-read the same topic over and over again with the same message. Throw in a few and and you have a line of drivel long enough to make Robert Frost look like a Haiku writer...

"It is better to be boldy decisive and be wrong than to agonize at length and be right."

 
Originally posted by jlaine You have provided no reasoning unless you feel repetitveness that is growing akin to ************ with no lubrication is reason - sure people get the idea, but ohh the chafing...

 

In fact, after you cut past the drivel and dumb it down, it all goes right to this: "Bush is an oil mongering grease monkey trying to show off and a general poopoo head, nah nah."

 

Seriously - you are carrying an agenda like a second grader that just had their lunchbox rifled through by the school bully during recess. Roseanne whined less during a drunken night of fistacuffs and general bad sitcom taping and still managed to make a few million people stare at an idiot box nightly as her voice slowly grinded braincells into oblivion by causing them to commit ******* with a dull-edged razor blade and a vengance.

 

I can only read so much attitude before a certain portion of me just snaps like a brittle twig and creates a catrastrophic reaction that causes a violent allergic response worse than watching Joe Pantoliano try and pretend he belonged in the Sopranos. If I wanted my head to be proverbially *****-slapped by someone with some sort of congnitive repetitive post disorder, I'd start up an official Subway forum and ask Jared to come trample me with suggestive skinny-fat man advertising. It's like watching the slow man at work getting shafted, then seeing him come up with a great retort 4 hours later and wondering why he's dancing around the office floor like Quasimodo after doing the limbo with the pole 5 feet in the air.

 

"It is better to be boldy decisive and be wrong than to agonize at length and be right."
You clearly don't need the repitition and can comprehend what you read. However, the bulk of the people on this board (that keep trying to debate with me) can't seem to understand the ingredient list on a bottle of water.. They keep walking around responding to direct points with the BS they do, and I have a problem walking away knowing full well they just aren't understanding what I'm saying.. Though, to be honest, I've run into this many many times in 'real life' as well.. I'm presuming I have a problem expressing my ideas as so many people get a glazed look in their eyes while I'm explaining things.. As such, I've taken to saying the same thing in at least 3 different approaches to try and ensure they understand what I'm saying.. it normally works..

What bothers me is, people like LWW keep playing this banter game and try to skirt around the base of the issues by distracting on things like spelling, and when I defend myself to those posts I'm being called repetitive.. Then to see someone like you, who seemingly is fairly intelligent, side with him when his tactic was clearly to try and create an overload of stimulous.. is .. well.. disheartening.. that's why I even botherd to respond to your post.. he really only offered the one example of a blantant mistake I've made, and I tried to admit up to it (more than most here would do)..

Oh well.. *shrug*

 
Originally posted by Savant That's what I do NOT support.. lying and cheating Americans.. I think it's wrong.. I fully support those that are in the line of fire, and hope like hell that they pull through safe.. but, unfortuanately, I know we will loose a lot of our brothers and sisters in this, all for no real good reason..
then there isn't a politician on the planet that u should support..because they are all lying, cheating Americans...

as to the war, (i haven't read all the thread yet, but will)...while the beauty of this country is the ability to have an opinion and state it about whomever and whatever..we need to remember that our men and women in uniform need re-assurance, that the laying down of THIER lives is important to us..NO MATTER WHAT OR WHO IS IN CHARGE..they are doing their duty..and they need to know that we back them..150%, no if and or buts about it

u don't have to like bush...u don't have to dislike saddam..but u need to respect those Americans over there doing their job ..PERIOD..(and this ain't just directed towards Savant)

btw..why is it the news media only shows the anti-protestors and not the ppl FOR the war...i seem to recall that 77% or so of Americans support bush and the war...62% support flat out annilihation of iraq (or something to that end...shoot me..i'm tired)...they show it because it draws bigger headlines, which fattens thier bottom line(thru sponsors and such)..WOW..even more lying cheating Americans

and one last thing...once war has started, the rules of war change..this i heard on cnn....now that we have commenced, saddam has become a "target of opportunity" and CAN be killed in whatever way feasible..that is why his house is burning as we speak

GOD BLESS THE USA AND THOSE WHO DEFEND HER......I, FOR ONE, SALUTE YOU!!

 
Gonna use this as an expample.. bear with me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

I missed putting it like this "lying TO and cheating Americans" .. meaning I don't support the people that lie to and cheat the American people.. but missing that to changed context.. that's the kind of thing I normally 'repeat' myself on to clarify..

now..

Originally posted by mrray13 u don't have to like bush...u don't have to dislike saddam..but u need to respect those Americans over there doing their job ..PERIOD..(and this ain't just directed towards Savant)
I explicitly stated supporting the troops, yet there was a bit of confusion here.. something implied that I wasn't supporting them .. or at least, something prompted the statement that it wasn't directed to 'only' me.. yet, it implies I feel just the opposite of how I do.. I have a brother there.. and I would hope that even those that hate Bush and the war would NOT wish any will ill on him.. he's doing his job and risking his life.. Even if he doesn't like Bush himself, he is living up to the responsibility he accepted, that being part of the force that protects (or more to the point, carries out the orders of the president) this country..

and one last thing...once war has started, the rules of war change..this i heard on cnn....now that we have commenced, saddam has become a "target of opportunity" and CAN be killed in whatever way feasible..that is why his house is burning as we speak
Hmm.. not heard anything about that.. makes no sense to me that the 'rules' can change once the game starts, but oh well //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif The world knows we are trying to kill him (and dammit! I hope we get him or all of this is a WASTE!!!!)..

Sorry mrray, I wanted to try and point a few things out to jlaine.. he's currently pissy with me and I'd rather he not be.. If he insists on staying that way, oh well.. but I wanted to show an example of what confuses the hell out of me and has me being repetitive.. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
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