installed hertz mlk 165's and not impressed

11-11-08...so too late to probably reply and mean anything...No midbass in MLK 165's?!... Well, who installed these, and what brackets were built, and what sound-deadining was done?... because I have these in my car and the mid bass, and even real bass down to 70 Hz is very substantial and real, so..

Please do not "diss" this speaker system for it is very accurate and real, and given the proper amplification is among the best, and of course the Morel and many others can be better, but it still is very good and among the best so again...

Installation is always the key, so... My installer is Jeremy at Advanced Audio Designs in Sharon, MA, and this guy and his people can flat out reconstruct your car to make it sound right, if you and they want, so, please realize that installation in car audio IS EVERYTHING...equipment is certainly important, but please realize that installion is what makes or breaks your system and your equipment.

My 165's can not even realize their full potential as the doors they are in, my Ford Fusion, need work, and when giving them strong low frequencies the doors just can't handle it (just try Michel Jackson's "Billie Jean" on his "One's" CD',) I can have the doors redone by one of, if not the best, installer around anywhere on the planet, Jeremy at Advanced Audio Designs in Sharon, MA, but after $15k in a $19k car I'm about done! But PUHLEASSE, anyone saying these mid-bass drivers are deficient either have no ears, improper accompanying equipment, or knowledge, or... I just don't know, 'cause these drivers rock, and go very low.

If you want to judge, the rest of my system is Nakamichi CD700II, Alpine Processor and Controller (PXA-H701, RUX-C701), 2 Audison LRx 2.9 amps driving the Hertz MLK 165's in the front doors, and a Hertz ML 2500 subwoofer (with Jermey's custom built sealed box) in the trunk, with Pear Cable Bosc RCA's and Pear Bosc Speaker Cable and Pear Comice Amp Wire, and to ensure proper power supply, an Exide Orbital Purple Haze XCD battery. Sound deadening in the front doors with Cascade Audio Engineering, and the trunk spaces done with Hushmat. So, if you are not impressed with the Hertz MLK 165's, I have to say that either your system and/or install does not do them the proper justice they deserve, or, dare I incur your potential wrath, you have no clue or ear as to what quality car audio is!
To sum it up, no one is as cool or spends as much money as this guy!

 
11-11-08...so too late to probably reply and mean anything...No midbass in MLK 165's?!... Well, who installed these, and what brackets were built, and what sound-deadining was done?... because I have these in my car and the mid bass, and even real bass down to 70 Hz is very substantial and real, so..

Please do not "diss" this speaker system for it is very accurate and real, and given the proper amplification is among the best, and of course the Morel and many others can be better, but it still is very good and among the best so again...

Installation is always the key, so... My installer is Jeremy at Advanced Audio Designs in Sharon, MA, and this guy and his people can flat out reconstruct your car to make it sound right, if you and they want, so, please realize that installation in car audio IS EVERYTHING...equipment is certainly important, but please realize that installion is what makes or breaks your system and your equipment.

My 165's can not even realize their full potential as the doors they are in, my Ford Fusion, need work, and when giving them strong low frequencies the doors just can't handle it (just try Michel Jackson's "Billie Jean" on his "One's" CD',) I can have the doors redone by one of, if not the best, installer around anywhere on the planet, Jeremy at Advanced Audio Designs in Sharon, MA, but after $15k in a $19k car I'm about done! But PUHLEASSE, anyone saying these mid-bass drivers are deficient either have no ears, improper accompanying equipment, or knowledge, or... I just don't know, 'cause these drivers rock, and go very low.

If you want to judge, the rest of my system is Nakamichi CD700II, Alpine Processor and Controller (PXA-H701, RUX-C701), 2 Audison LRx 2.9 amps driving the Hertz MLK 165's in the front doors, and a Hertz ML 2500 subwoofer (with Jermey's custom built sealed box) in the trunk, with Pear Cable Bosc RCA's and Pear Bosc Speaker Cable and Pear Comice Amp Wire, and to ensure proper power supply, an Exide Orbital Purple Haze XCD battery. Sound deadening in the front doors with Cascade Audio Engineering, and the trunk spaces done with Hushmat. So, if you are not impressed with the Hertz MLK 165's, I have to say that either your system and/or install does not do them the proper justice they deserve, or, dare I incur your potential wrath, you have no clue or ear as to what quality car audio is!
Interesting, yet still entertaining. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
11-11-08...so too late to probably reply and mean anything...No midbass in MLK 165's?!... Well, who installed these, and what brackets were built, and what sound-deadining was done?... because I have these in my car and the mid bass, and even real bass down to 70 Hz is very substantial and real, so..

Please do not "diss" this speaker system for it is very accurate and real, and given the proper amplification is among the best, and of course the Morel and many others can be better, but it still is very good and among the best so again...

Installation is always the key, so... My installer is Jeremy at Advanced Audio Designs in Sharon, MA, and this guy and his people can flat out reconstruct your car to make it sound right, if you and they want, so, please realize that installation in car audio IS EVERYTHING...equipment is certainly important, but please realize that installion is what makes or breaks your system and your equipment.

My 165's can not even realize their full potential as the doors they are in, my Ford Fusion, need work, and when giving them strong low frequencies the doors just can't handle it (just try Michel Jackson's "Billie Jean" on his "One's" CD',) I can have the doors redone by one of, if not the best, installer around anywhere on the planet, Jeremy at Advanced Audio Designs in Sharon, MA, but after $15k in a $19k car I'm about done! But PUHLEASSE, anyone saying these mid-bass drivers are deficient either have no ears, improper accompanying equipment, or knowledge, or... I just don't know, 'cause these drivers rock, and go very low.

If you want to judge, the rest of my system is Nakamichi CD700II, Alpine Processor and Controller (PXA-H701, RUX-C701), 2 Audison LRx 2.9 amps driving the Hertz MLK 165's in the front doors, and a Hertz ML 2500 subwoofer (with Jermey's custom built sealed box) in the trunk, with Pear Cable Bosc RCA's and Pear Bosc Speaker Cable and Pear Comice Amp Wire, and to ensure proper power supply, an Exide Orbital Purple Haze XCD battery. Sound deadening in the front doors with Cascade Audio Engineering, and the trunk spaces done with Hushmat. So, if you are not impressed with the Hertz MLK 165's, I have to say that either your system and/or install does not do them the proper justice they deserve, or, dare I incur your potential wrath, you have no clue or ear as to what quality car audio is!
wow, i thought this thread was already resolved. I have them installed correctly and they sound wonderful. Thank you for your response i couldn't have done it without you.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 
I loved mine when I had them, but since, I have replaced them with a more affordable Morel Dotech Ovation 6 and will never look back.
I wish I could hear those Morel cranked. The dealer here refuses to turn them up on his display. At the low level he played them at, the Hertz sounded better. He had the Supremos hooked up also, but refused to boost the highs or the volume. I don't know how he is selling them giving people those weak auditions?

 
it sounds to me like jeremy is a da mn fine salesman, if he milked you for 15k, sold you wires that retail for obscene prices like 200$ for a 10foot pair of RCA's or 7.50 per foot of 12ga speaker wire, didn't even deaden your doors to the point that they can handle the MLK165 woofers, and then managed to convince you that it was a good deal.

 
I wish I could hear those Morel cranked. The dealer here refuses to turn them up on his display. At the low level he played them at, the Hertz sounded better. He had the Supremos hooked up also, but refused to boost the highs or the volume. I don't know how he is selling them giving people those weak auditions?
I have a local Morel Dealer and he told me ppl are blowing the mids on them left and right. I was trying to go Morel and sell my Focal and he was trying to convince me to keep the Focal that I didnt even buy from him and just play with the tune. Surprised he didn't try to sell me the Morel I was interested in. One think the installer told me about the MLK 165 is that he didn't like their midbass.

 
just saw these responses and thought some things should be said so...

generally, sorry if a few of you think I'm trying to say my system and installer are so great and that we are whatever... just thought I'd defend the mlk165's one night when I was just seeing what was said. about them as I was thinking about my investment..

maybe I don't have the experience and backgrounds to measure up to the supercritical posters I have encountered on these numerous car audio sites, sorry, thought this was about enjoying car audio and having fun... but maybe some of us are really trying to be better than others or satisfy our egos, I can assure you I am not, I was foolish to waste the money I did... but I do so enjoy my car sounds... so many better systems out there than mine... I'm sure many of yours are, including my detractors here.

but let me tell you "headless" Jeremy didn't SELL ME anything, just gave me great advice, installation and service, he didn't "charge"me $15k, my equipment cost was the majority of the purchase and his labor was expensive but worth every penny, but I'm sure I don't have to tell you that, because I'm sure no matter how we may differ in opinion, we do agree that excellent install is important, right?... I purchased all my Pear Cable separately and paid nowhere near the prices you mentioned, so get your facts straight before you post your condescending opinions, but thats ok, this is what these forums are about, and you know what they say about opinions, and maybe you are one too, maybe not, I don't know, your fellow posters may though, as I don't post here often, as I sure YOU know, so you can just take it for whatever it's worth.. and take what I say as just another car audio enthusiast... as far as didn't deaden the doors enough... you are speaking without knowing the facts.. as when I picked the car up he TOLD me the doors needed work, and when he told me what it would cost I declined... I still can't afford to spend more, but I realize his advice was correct, so your comments should have been more to the line of did he offer to do further work on the doors?... but no, you chose to bring out the insults, so I can only infer your motives and character to be judgemental and lacking in any interest in positive discourse with a desire to be negative and critical to further your own agenda whatever it may be..

t-money....thanks, I think they sound outstanding as well, I had the Focals and replaced them with the Hertz, and have worked in the audio industry for years and have heard many speaker systems, and these do sound great.

to blacktruck ... you think I'm trying to be cool here?! wow, I may have some problems but posting on car audio forums to be cool is certainly not one of them, I guess if you copy my post and respond as you did you possibly have "feeling cool" problems yourself, so if you have nothing else of substance to add just stay silent. what was it you sai?... "To sum it up, no one is as cool or spends as much money as this guy!"... Lots of folks spend way more than I did... How much did you spend? How much does the average poster here spend? How much would you like to spend? Actually what does it matter? Sorry if you can't add anything for additional discussion instead of insults, maybe you're a frustrated wannabee, maybe not...

for your information I'm about as cool as lukewarm water, I know it, the American people know it, so again, if your comments on my post are continually similar please spare us all the derisive commen and post no further here..

there you go, just another's opinion, the mkl165's are an excellent speaker system...

but if you want to disagree that's fine too, but do so with articulable facts, and not the aforementioned attacks on my or my installer's characters or motives....

t-money

 
*golf clap*

I didn't say you spent that much on those wires; i simply listed their retail values. If jeremy didn't try to sell you on that crap, but you bought it anyway without his advising it, then i've got a much higher opinion of him. And a lower one of you. Especially if you have been involved in the audio industry for years //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

I do agree that the install is extremely important. Much more important than silver cables, for example.

If you didn't spend retail prices on the pear cables, where did you spend all of your money? You say you've got 15k of audio in the car...

Now i'm not sure what real world prices are on some of your equipment, so lets go with retail prices for ALL of your stuff. I'm sure you got much better deals than full retail price, right?

I mean, just throwing out super high numbers for your equipment, we've got....

LRx 2.9's; what, 800$ each? 1600

nakamichi deck - 1200? 1300? Lets go 1300

PXA-HX701 + RUX-C701 - 600? 700? Lets go with 700.

ML2500 - 600? Couldn't find a price on this one.

Battery - 200$?

1600+1300+700+600+200 = 4400$. Deadening....600$ of deadening? Not if your doors aren't good to go with MLK's - say, 400$ of deadening plus 600$ for your subwoofer box, now we're at 5400$, being extremely generous on prices for just about everything (dunno about the ml2500 price).

If you paid retail for everything, then did your install cost 9600$? Or did your cables cost several thousand dollars? If you didn't pay retail on all your equipment...where the hell did the other thousands of dollars go?

 
just saw these responses and thought some things should be said so...
generally, sorry if a few of you think I'm trying to say my system and installer are so great and that we are whatever... just thought I'd defend the mlk165's one night when I was just seeing what was said. about them as I was thinking about my investment..

maybe I don't have the experience and backgrounds to measure up to the supercritical posters I have encountered on these numerous car audio sites, sorry, thought this was about enjoying car audio and having fun... but maybe some of us are really trying to be better than others or satisfy our egos, I can assure you I am not, I was foolish to waste the money I did... but I do so enjoy my car sounds... so many better systems out there than mine... I'm sure many of yours are, including my detractors here.

but let me tell you "headless" Jeremy didn't SELL ME anything, just gave me great advice, installation and service, he didn't "charge"me $15k, my equipment cost was the majority of the purchase and his labor was expensive but worth every penny, but I'm sure I don't have to tell you that, because I'm sure no matter how we may differ in opinion, we do agree that excellent install is important, right?... I purchased all my Pear Cable separately and paid nowhere near the prices you mentioned, so get your facts straight before you post your condescending opinions, but thats ok, this is what these forums are about, and you know what they say about opinions, and maybe you are one too, maybe not, I don't know, your fellow posters may though, as I don't post here often, as I sure YOU know, so you can just take it for whatever it's worth.. and take what I say as just another car audio enthusiast... as far as didn't deaden the doors enough... you are speaking without knowing the facts.. as when I picked the car up he TOLD me the doors needed work, and when he told me what it would cost I declined... I still can't afford to spend more, but I realize his advice was correct, so your comments should have been more to the line of did he offer to do further work on the doors?... but no, you chose to bring out the insults, so I can only infer your motives and character to be judgemental and lacking in any interest in positive discourse with a desire to be negative and critical to further your own agenda whatever it may be..

t-money....thanks, I think they sound outstanding as well, I had the Focals and replaced them with the Hertz, and have worked in the audio industry for years and have heard many speaker systems, and these do sound great.

to blacktruck ... you think I'm trying to be cool here?! wow, I may have some problems but posting on car audio forums to be cool is certainly not one of them, I guess if you copy my post and respond as you did you possibly have "feeling cool" problems yourself, so if you have nothing else of substance to add just stay silent. what was it you sai?... "To sum it up, no one is as cool or spends as much money as this guy!"... Lots of folks spend way more than I did... How much did you spend? How much does the average poster here spend? How much would you like to spend? Actually what does it matter? Sorry if you can't add anything for additional discussion instead of insults, maybe you're a frustrated wannabee, maybe not...

for your information I'm about as cool as lukewarm water, I know it, the American people know it, so again, if your comments on my post are continually similar please spare us all the derisive commen and post no further here..

there you go, just another's opinion, the mkl165's are an excellent speaker system...

but if you want to disagree that's fine too, but do so with articulable facts, and not the aforementioned attacks on my or my installer's characters or motives....

t-money
To sum it up, no one is as cool or spends money like this guy

But in all honesty I spent about 2200ish I guess and I did the entire install my self.

I know im awesome, like there is just no doubt about that from this side of the internet. America knows im awesome so that should clear that up also.

 
hey blacktruck10...instead of my wasting space copying and pasting YOUR absurd post as you do mine, I'll just say that YOU ARE AWESOME, NO DOUBT, and can I please attend your COOL SCHOOL, I'll pay anything you say so maybe one day I can be AS COOL AS YOU!... again if you have nothing of substance to say please just SHUTUP... we all know, sorry, ALL AMERICA, knows how AWESOME you are, so why don't you just go ... does that clear that up? and please no more posts, if you have anything to say email me and we'll go from there...

headless.... "golf clap", please, how infantile, maybe that snide comment says something about your character and personality, but please forgive me, I was just trying to enjoy some car audio talk and not initiate the wrath of some desperate sniper hiding in the car audio internet woods just waiting for someone to ambush with their superior experience and knowledge...

but since you've continued the discussion I will add information that I did not initially deem necessary as I did not think that all of the facts would have to be revealed to justify and/or support my claims of enjoying my speakers and my system, and I would like those people who have read this post with positive interest to have the answers to your comments.... thank you to those folks...

so here is how your numbers work out... LRx 2.9's close, Nak deck, off a few hundred, and oh yeah I did buy an extra year's warranty, you probably will think I'm even more of a chump for that too (yeah you're right everyone selling sees me coming..), the alpine processor and controller close, the ML2500 close (why couldn't you find a price on this one given your knowledge and abilities?..), the battery off by around $100. By the way where were your numbers on the MLK165's which is what this post was really about?! Or does that not even matter to you now? Did I forget to mention that these are really an excellent sounding speaker system? I sure wish PSB would manufacture car speakers, that is what I have for home speakers, care to take another shot, just giving you the opening! Want to know how much I paid for them too?

So, for whatever its worth, I should say before you denigrate a product line like Pear cable, please learn something about the line, I said I had Bosc interconnects and speaker cable, not the RCA silver Comice, so obviously you have an anti-Pear bias, so please take that out elsewhere as I have never felt any high-end cable line was worth the price asked, but I do believe that cables are components in a system and not accesories, and that one should have high-quality cables with high-quality equipment to maximize the systems potential. I don't really think the $20 burger in an expensive downtown restaurant is really worth the money, but I still realize how good it is when I eat it. And yes, my installer never would say it directly, but he did intimate that the cables were of high quality but probably not worth the money, but you know, I still don't regret paying what I did for them, and he gladly and professionaly terminated them and installed them.

I also had to pay for several labor hours (yes very expensive) for correction of a previous botched install, and rewiring of the entire car, due to getting ripped off and mistreated by a previous installer who is now out of business. You can estimate the cost, what do you charge per hour for your labor cost?

And there was also the sale and install of the Clifford alarm system. And there was also the rental car charge of a few hundred dollars while this all transpired. So now when you add these up does this come close to the figure I mentioned I invested? Sorry if my figure included these additional items that I did not specify, but I did not think I would be so financially analyzed to justify the system's cost, my mistake. Again, I thought we were just enjoying our car audio here and relating our experiences. Seems I was wrong, at least where you were involved.

I never mentioned a figure to be impressive, only to show the seriousness of my endeavor, and certainly we all know that most high-end car audio systems NOT INSTALLED BY THE OWNER like the AWESOME blacktruck, cost a pretty penny for a real professional installer to install, and worth every penny I have to unfortunately say as the original reason for my post was not only to state that my experiences with this speaker system were antithetical to the person "not impressed", and that quality install was of paramount importance, and I only mentioned the system components and their cost as most of the posts I've read on these sites always listed their systems' specifics.. Most high-end systems I've heard, or read about cost significantly more than mine, so I know that blacktrucks $2200 is all that is needed, so the rest of us are really just people taken and ripped off, right blacktruck?

Anyway, again, for all that may still care, I feel the Hertz MLK 165's, when properly installed, and driven with the right amplifier, are an outstanding sounding component speaker system, excellent, clean felt mid-bass, with even low frequencies accurately reproduced, tweeters with excellent definition on the high end, great imaging, accuracy, and definitely a system overall less bright and harsh and more detailed than so many others I have heard. Again, just my opinion, which is the only reason I originially responded, even though others here have intimated my motives were otherwise. Again, only my opinion, and we all know about opinions...

Hope everyone enjoys there car tunes as I do!

 
...instead of my wasting space copying and pasting YOUR absurd post as you do mine...
I don't think you understand. On discussion forums, quoting relevant text in one's reply lets the participants know who's being spoken to and the exact issues being addressed. It's an integral part of forum culture and it's been this way since before the web as we know it ever existed, and for a good reason. It's all about streamlining the flow of communication.

Clearly, you're new to all this and you probably don't realize how your comments are being read. As you seem like a nice man, please take this in the best way possible and stop feeding this thread. Nothing will ever get resolved and your point will never be understood in light of the rest of the text. Ask yourself if it really matters. Good luck. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
FJF..

thanks for your thoughts, and you certainly are right.. it does not really matter... these are only typed words on an internet page... I don't really care if anything gets "resolved" here, and of course outside of words it does not "really matter"...no doubt, but these words must mean something as you, I, and others, have taken the time, and exerted the efforts to express these thoughts so I will continue as briefly as possible... terseness not being a trait of mine, to my eternal regret... You may not realize, but I interpret your response that I am a nice person to be truly meant, but your additional expressed sentiments seem somewhat condescending.. Um, yes I understand the"quoting relevant text" in one's reply on discussion forums, but I always thought it was the lazyman's way to try and say a lot with only a few words by relying on others' statements, and sometimes it works, othertimes its just short, easy comments.. sorry, you described it as "streamlining the flow of communications", guess one could look at it that way...and yes,I didn't see the response from my two previous detractors as I thought they would just live for their opportunity to further "tune me up" after my continued comments, as now they have their next chance to further their assault... (or maybe they just didn't yet have their chance to respond and their response(s) is (are) forthcoming). So we'll wait for that. Please respond if and when you see fit! But the comments after the reposting were so inconsequential that the reposting became only self-serving.

And with all due respect, I'm 52 and have been "computing" on various forums and threads such as this since I first took "computer science" my freshman year in 1975 when we were required to write our programs on punch cards... many, many years ago. so please realize that although I may not regularly participate in you and your brethren's forum here, but I'm no idiot or virgin. But I do appreciate your respect. But why is it so many people here want disputatious banter instead of mere reflection and response to positive personal comments on their systems?

..and sorry I don't understand your comment..and "stop feeding this thread"...? what does that mean?...am I insulting you and your fellow posters by continuing to post, and with what I have said by my last post, and/or what I continue to say whatever it is I am saying?... if this "thread" is so dead and forgotten why would you continue to read it and take exception and ask me to "stop feeding this thread?!"... is that some kind of insult I am perpetrating on you and your fellow posters by continuing to post responses? If so, I am sorry, not intended. But that seems so unnecessary if this thread is "dead".. right?! If that is the case then everyone here should just stop posting responses. Remember we did have one poster in agreement with my thesis, that is he/she enjoyed these speakers and was glad I said what I did... But if everyone else should just ignore it, including yourself then why are we still "talking". Maybe you are right, I really don't get you folks, as you claim to want intelligent discourse, but then seem to shy away from it when it is offered, as it has been here.

...but, please realize that although I may seem virginal in posting to you, as you seem to think I can't understand how important "quoting relevant text" is, but this poster's responses are so absurd that I must take exception and did...sorry, guess my point will possibly never be understood by you if you don't understand why I'm so baffled by how ridiculous his responses were... but sorry again, really don't get that as his response was either meant to be comical, or was insulting and ridiculous, maybe you're right and I'm missing the/his point... my only point was I like these speakers.. how difficult is that to understand by anyone here?! And if one wants to understand the thread, follow it from the beginning by actually reading it, another example of our country's populace becoming so intellectually lazy that if it is not laid out immediately with the reprint of the original comments, then they can't be bothered to read fully and comprehend the whole situation.

 
Well, I tried. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/banghead.gif.8606515f668c74f6de0281deb475b6fd.gif

When I was in college, there was a mentally challenged young man named Larry who'd hang around the campus. Some would entertain themselves by throwing a penny and watching Larry chase it. I felt bad for him and one day pulled Larry aside and explained that folks are simply ridiculing him by tossing the coins. In the middle of the conversation, a penny rolled by and Larry took off after it. As I stood watching the scene develop, deeply disturbed by the events and Larry's actions, I decided to throw a penny, myself.

Enjoy your stay here. I'm sure we'll talk again.

 
hey FJF thanks for trying...this is Larry's cousin, he told me about you and he is grateful for your compassion. His hanging around Faber College with you was the highlight of his life! How propitious we would "hook-up"! So glad you understand the depth of my disturbance.

Thanks again for your condescension. I guess I just don't measure up to the standards here with caraudio.com's message board's posters, but I am enjoying my stay here because of the contuining emergence of prescient people such as yourself. Some of you folks here seem to really know me and what I am about and are really enjoying my absurdity.

Don't know though, should I have copied your last post BEFORE I replied so everyone would understand what we were talking about?! I guess that was your main point in the last post, but I assume I was too obtuse to understand. Pitching pennies analogy?! Are you serious

Again, what did I do or say for you to intimate that I am like your retard acquaintance Larry? Just for my information...

Aren't you glad were "talking" again!

 
Again, what did I do or say for you to intimate that I am like your retard acquaintance Larry? Just for my information...
You once again missed the point in its entirety. Unfortunate, really.

Regardless, as you've completely misinterpreted all of my comments, writing a bizarre, steam of consciousness onslaught of mindless drivel in reply, you'll have to forgive me for wondering whether your current actions are driven by the presence of an extra chromosome. I can appreciate your vast computer experience that paints you as an utterly clueless noob in practice, and marvel at your ability to shy away from established standards in hopes of illustrating yourself as an even bigger imbecile than initially suspected. An behalf of the group, I thank you for providing us with amusing journey.

Aren't you glad were "talking" again!
...I have a few minutes to kill.

 
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